Better stock shell for Tier VII Challengers

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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Nation Tank Stock shell Penetration @ 10m 0⁰ Penetration @ 10m 30⁰
USA M1A2/SEP/SEPV2 M829 491 284
Germany L2A5/PSO DM33 481 278
Germany L2A6/A7 DM33 496 287
USSR T-80VM/T-90M 3BM42 457 264
UK Challenger 2 BN/E L23A1 396 229
UK Challenger 3 DM33 496 287
Japan Type 10/TKX JM33 481 278
China Type 99/VT4A1 Type 1985 466 269
China WZ1001(E) CT Type 1985 476 275
Italy Ariete AMV CL3143 589 343
Italy L2A7 HU DM33 496 287
France Leclerc OFL 120 G1 425 246
Sweden STRV 122A/B PLSS/B+ DM23 410 237
Sweden CV 90120 DM23 410 237
Sweden L2A6 DM33 496 287
Israel Merkava 4 B/LIC/M M322 589 343

As shown in the table above, Challenger 2 Black night and Challenger 2 E has the worst stock shell in tier VII 12.0 tanks. The mobility of challengers are also worse than the average level in 12.0 game.

The penetration data of L26 shell at 10 meters is 493mm/285mm.

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Should tier VII Challengers get better stock shells?

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  • No
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Is L26 a more appropriate stock shell for Tier VII Challengers?

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L23 is Miserable at top tier,

i wouldn’t complain with it being the stock shell when others had HEAT-FS as their only stock shell, but L26 is on-par with other’s stock shells, while L23 is rather pathetic, especially at 12.0

as far as I’m aware there is no other tank in game with 3 different APFSDS shells, only 2

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Actually people benefiting from this already get the top L27A1 or at least L26. Only people who recently acquired the challengers are still suffering from the awful L23A1. The new players should not suffer such a pathetic round just because the previous players enjoys the stock APFSDS.

BTW, T-64A/T-72A got 3BM9/15/22 3 different kinds of APFSDS shell.

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At least you can research the L26 at rank 1.

I would argue that the worst stock shell is the OFL 120 G1 as you stuck with a shell with only 425mm pen until rank 4.

The grind until rank 4 is just miserable as most of the time you cannot pen the side of Russian mbts with Relikt era.

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While i get the question and the need for an upgrade, why are most of the tanks in the chart tier VIII (8)???
Every tier VII (7) starts with HEAT-FS, except SWE and GBR!!!
The JPN and ISR tier VII have to deal with HEAT-FS until a Tier 3 mod.

And as mentioned L26 gives 491mm of pen as tier one, just like the M1A1 with M829. All the USSR Tier VII start with HEAT-FS and a T1 mod 3BM42 with 452mm of pen.