What? I said nothing about ground (it is good CAS though)… everything I said there was not only about air but air to air combat specifically.
wait what the hell cat is a tank
ohh i see now mb
Yes it is but its a plane too… the M-18 is a tank, the F6F is a fighter both are called “Hellcat”
LOL NP I probably should have been more specific.
Also put him in as the worst fighter. If he aces that trash plane, it means that he’s ready. I put him in to a Ju-87 to dogfight making him better.
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hes like very new his highest bc is 1.3 for us i think would a bomber work like the 1.0 with guns?
I belive the Bomber Sb2U at BR of 1.0 at the US tech tree will help alot and the JU-87 B-2 will also defintely help alot. Both aircraft are at a BR of 1.0.
alr thx
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I think the fact that you are even trying to teach him the basics rather than just shoving him into a premium F/A18 means you guys will do ok
I think any of the rank 1 single engine attacker/bombers would be fine. that also one of the reasons I recommend the F6F as a first premium, its good at lots of things… but it’s not best in class at any of them, you need to recognize what you are fighting and how to counter it. you cant just rely on one aspect of the airframe to carry you.
but @O_Warrior0 advice is where you want to start.
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damn all the advice ive gotten is very good i must say
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Caveat: I haven’t touched RB in a good while, my impressions are mostly driven by SB but should be still somewhat transferrable. I tried to consider differences in advice (hence putting the Mustang MK Ia so low)
I advise against Fw190. Even in SB, it’s a “Hardmode” plane.
The Italian aircraft (C202, G.55 sotto 0) are amazing aircraft and an easy grind to unlock. Their tech trees to top tier are also very lean allowing for a quick grind to top tier. The Saggitario 2 and Ariete make for excellent korean war aircraft.
Otherwise, if you must get premiums…
Tada’s Ki-61 Hei is a rank 4 premium that’s very cheap, lowish BR but good economy. It is a faster japanese plane so not as good as zeros at turning but you do have a chance to contest german aircraft in speed with it.
Alternatively, the Hungarian bf109G2 for italy. G2 is a pretty cool plane with surprisingly long WEP for german aircraft (historical reasons - its max engine is limited until G-4 and G-6 especially where MW50 is introduced). It’s down at 4.3 while still sitting at rank V.
If you must play germany or britain-
Germany, at Rank 2 has the Yak-1B. It’s one of the best fighters at its BR. Drawback is you dont get to do events with it but it has OK economy.
Britain - I love my Mustang MK Ia in ASB. I dunno how well it translates to mouse aim as mouse aim massively hinders mustangs and 109s. Additionally it’s a much harder plane to fly well compared to 109s and especially Ki-61s.
My advise is hungarian 109G2 or Tada Ki-61 if getting premium. Ki-61 if wanting an easier time, 109 if wanting to work on fundamentals while not being as heavily punished for mistakes as other planes.
If not going for premium - I recommend the Italian Tech Tree: The Fiats (G.55, G56) are very good planes - they’re super turny 109s, The Re 2XXX are italian spitfires, the C20X are fast italian 109s. At later ranks you get the saggitario II and Ariete as a premium which are monstrously good korean war jets. Ariete in RB does have to face missilethunder but in SB it’s a monster.
I recommend leaving america for your “I’ve experience now” tree as it requires more methodical gameplay which requires expeirence. Similarly - stay away from Fw 190s until you got more experience. They’re hard.
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its not me i have lot of expirience like 1200-1300 hours its for my friend but thx ill ask him if he whants to swicht to a easier cuntry thx
Well, if I take “us” to mean U.S. - I have suggestions! I am primarily a U.S. prop guy. I can recommend the Corsair to your friend for a few reasons:
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Consistent play style and options from BR 2.7 to 5.7. I enjoy both the F4U-1A USMC and F4U-4. The F4U-1A at 2.7 is unquestionably solid without being P-39N levels of silly. He can grow into higher BRs with familiarity. The F4U-4B is pretty nuts at 5.7 - incredible speed, massive firepower.
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The Corsair is an overall better plane that the F6F-5. Another poster rightly pointed out that the Hellcat will teach you some hard lessons. That’s true, but those lessons will hurt as a newer player! The play style of the Corsair is more straightforward, and also a bit easier to grasp.
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The Corsair is a platform to get deeper into game mechanics. Understanding, and using, flaps and MEC correctly are requirements if you want to get the most out of it. Beyond that, using a HOTAS is a requirement to unlock the plane’s full potential if he wants to go that route.
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ETA: the other “nice” thing about the Corsair is that its performance is so limited by the instructor that having a low level crew is less of a penalty. Some aircraft suffer heavily without maxed out G-tolerance and Stamina… the Corsair doesn’t really have that problem with mouse aim / simplified controls.
Going beyond the Corsair, I also like the Mustang. The Mustang and Thunderbolts live in the same line, so that’s nice. The P-51C-10 is a bit cracked at BR 3.7. It will take the game play a Corsair pilot learns and turns it up to 11 - but also add high speed handling. The P-51D-5 takes a BIG hit to performance for two more guns - it’s workable, and will teach highly disciplined play. It’s the F6F-5 of Mustangs in that sense… but without the multi dimensional approach.
Seeing this whole thread as good advice regarding possible aircraft choices i would rather question the overall goals of your friend (and your own) whilst playing war thunder.
Why?
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If the goal is to fly high/toptier jets with an “what ever it takes” mindset and playstyle (including more or less useless base bombing) any advice regarding props has just very limited effects as depending on the time investment (learning & playing) it is rather easy to get to rank 5 (jet range).
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It is way easier to buy a high-tier Mach 2 jet and bomb bases as this requires very little effort, but there is massive difference between being successful in aerial combat and being a successful “grinder” doing his thing.
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In the best case the gained experience over time (aka as skill) goes along with the progress in the TT.
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The difference in play styles between props and jets (and jets with and without AAMs ad CMs) is mainly based on speed and accelerated engagements - so you need similar skills (like situational awareness and correct target prioritisation) but also the ability to react extremely fast on threats popping out of nowhere.
The game play wt is offering in Air RB at BR 10 and higher is basically a bar fight of a bunch of extremely drunk players - whilst the game setup is aimed to kill rookies with a sensory overload. My son even played top tier Air AB which is basically the pinnacle of ultra fast game play - not my cup of coffee like jets in general.
As a final remark:
I encourage you to test some of the provided recommendations in order to get better and to have at least a 1:1 K/D ratio before you drag others in the hamster wheel called grind…
FW190 sounds too bad for an inexpecienced pilot, and the Spitfire isnt so unique. I recommend to get him a XP-50. Its OP so he would learn easilly.
tho Corsair is not maneuverable enough, especially the 4x20 version, AND there are no premium corsairs in the US tree.
I figured since he mentioned premium time that would be an option with the Corsairs. That being said, it is a damn shame the U.S. doesn’t have a premium Corsair.
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buy the 5.7 spitfire. It’s the best US prop fighter and its not even US lol. Dog fight on easy mode.
US prop are bad at turn fighting, nearly all of them can only do boom and zoom.
he made up his mind hes not gonna buy anything
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