Either give it radar guided missiles or lower it’s br, it’s unplayable without at 12.7.
why yes we need F-16 at 12.3 with 6x IRCCM missiles. that way we can move the 12.3 F-16A with only 9Ls down to 12.0! /s
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Such an intelligent demand, I wonder what possibly could be the potential consequence of this particular action?
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I like this idea!
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/s just in case someone takes this unironically
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So removing the 6 IRCCM’s when lowering the BR didn’t dawn on you?
And I rather have them leave it at 12.7, remove the aim-9m and give sparrows instead.
This is the first time you mention removing its IRCCM ;)
Does it have the neccesary iluminator for sparrow guidance?
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Judging by what they have done to F-15A/J/Baz they just might…
Have you seen the F-16A stats? On January it was the worst rank8 jet fighter at #103 out of #114 with all the planes behind being CAS.
It’s so bad, it’s arguably in a worse state than F-15A was at 13.0
Or we could look at planes with very questionable brs namely all high tier strike fighters. Tornado Gr4 .3 above the F3 why?
maybe remove the air to air missiles, leave the gun and move it down to br 9.0?
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or remove the engine and make it a killstreak in grb
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Ive already talked about F-16A issues in some other post when i spaded it in january i think (I cant find it rn).
Basically, I dont think the 12.3 F-16As can be fixed by simply shifting their BRs.
Excellent FM basically guaranteeing a gun kill as long as you merge but with next to no range and what range it has is dubious at best.
F-16As have no presence in the opener, they barely have any presence mid game since everyone and their mother is flaring in furball so 9Ls wont do anything.
Late game they are excellent at moping up enemies, but by that point either friendly team or the enemy team is mostly dead anyway so player either wont get much kills or he gets jumped by 30 people at once.
And thats where the issue lies. A plane that is excellent in 1/3rd of the match with no guarantee of getting to that 1/3rd while being neigh useless for other 2/3rds of the match is simply terrible to play.
But
Due to aforementioned FM i dont think it can go any lower in BR. Sure it has no range but since at 12.0 and below were talking mostly about “first gen” LD-SD radars that are easy to defeat and older SARH missiles, it would be much easier to merge. And in dogfight between phantom and F-16A, my money is on F-16.
So as I see it, there are two possible fixes that dont involve further compression.
First, more theoretical one, would be the removal of name tags in ARB. This would give F-16A (and many other planes) much more breathing room and it would allow it to engage more planes on its terms without much fear of third partying. But since this would be a radical change to a game mode so theres slim chance of this happening, likely never.
Second possible fix i think would be just giving it 9Ms and moving it to 12.7 where the other IR only F-16s sit. This would at least give it presence in mid game while retaining its playstyle and possibly fixing it. I would confirm this by taking a look at statshark data for the 12.7 F-16s but my statshark is having a stroke and is stuck on “verification required” so I have no clue whenever this opinion holds any water lol.
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F16A end game is also weak. 1 x 13.0 flanker can easily run it out of CMs…never mind the 13.3
Give all non fox 3 f16s 120 CMs and they can at least fly high and potentially get the merge.
Iv been trying to get the ace on the f16a for a while- never have a good session really.
Take away Global AI kills from any of the fox2 only f16s count and it would be much worse.
Using the f1 with a bad FM - fighting vs more of less the same jets shouldn’t be this much easier
remove countermeasures and it can be 8.3
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Another cope thread where somebody with a skill issue begs for a downtier to a plane already undertiered.
So turn the game into WoT with artificial balancing on every plane? No thanks. True to life statistics only.
Not saying other planes should get bs features but there is jet which is literally everything you mentioned. F5c with 9e (which it didnt have), flare dispencer (which it didnt have), heat signature (which is lower than other jet with same engine somehow) and surreal flight model.
Also if we look at tanks (which are also big part of game), bmpt can also be one of examples of bs balancing with its “external” ammo belts.
Yes, and it’s very often complained about for these reasons. Do not seek to create more. It is a GOOD thing these are rare and not the normal expectation for balance.
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f16 12.0 soon