For me also some of the rank II and III SPAAs from Rus, US, Fra etc cause issues with their 80ish mm pen ammo. 80mm pen on an autocannon is quite alot in an WW2 BR bracket. Alot medium tanks like Pz IVs, Shermans, T-34 etc. are just too vulnerable to these.
For Ru the Gaz, ZSU, Zis should loose all high pen ammo which is above 50 or 60 mm. I mean the ZSU-37 at BR 3.3 sports a 87mm pen autocannon. Its the death angel vs. med tanks of that BR range and ru players spawn it with impunity. Some real tanks don’t have that much more pen on their single shot cannons. It makes no sense.
US M19 and M42 need to lose their 70+ mm pen ammo.
France has a 2.0 BR autogun SPAA with 70+ mm pen and ofc the AMX at 5.0 with almost 100mm pen autocannon.
These threats to tank gameplay need to be tackled. All belts above 50mm or 60mm pen need to be removed. Players tend to spawn them with impunity and have surely fun to autogun WW2 tanks on all these small CQC maps. I hate it. Its not immersive and a balancing nightmare.
Good thing about those, is that you can reliably 1-shot them if you so much so as touch them with a HE round with at least 400g of TNT. You can reliably overpressure after that. Most tanks at those BRs have such HE rounds.
You can oneshot every tank except for some heavies. Thats no reason to use postwar ammunition and bam bam bam your way through Panzer IVs which cant even tank it frontally. Or T-34 or Shermans. And then the Game client rates it as SPAA which require almost no spawn points to bring.
At least they can tag it tank destroyer or something.
I mean its GRB. Ist not exactly a gamemode which is balanced around armor. Its usually more like who is positioning / spotting first and who has better reload times to deal with several targets simultaneosly. And something like the ZSU or AMX can zapp whole groups of med tanks before they can even traverse their guns towards it. Good gunhandling…all SPAAs have this. Most even good mobilitly. Its like playing a Ego Shooter with minigun while your opponents all have single shot muskets.
Autocannon vehicles usually don’t need to stop. At least I always use them as mobile shooting platform. The high fire rate compensates the lack of a stabilizer. You will hit, even when you go full speed. Any common tanks need to stop, cause you can’t risk to waste your only shot before reloading.
Sure you will hit, but you may not hit the correct spots. You need to shoot the turrets for both the T-34s and Panzer IV. The opposite is true for those tanks, they can also just move on the go (as they do not have to aim) and even shooting the track can overpressure them:
So it can kill 8.7 light tanks effectively, and kill 8.7 MBTs from the side somewhat well. Good for it, I guess?
This is a full downtier, and stuff like that can happen.
Let me give you an example:
Olifant Mk.2 is 9.3, with Gen 2 thermals, decent turret armour in a full downtier, 6.7s reload with DM63, ESS, and fairly good reverse speed.
It is practically better than the T-55A (which is 8.3) in almost every single way.
Are you going to ask for it to be moved up too?
How about the AMX-32 (120), or the CM11, or the Merkava Mk 1/2B? - all being significantly better than the T-55A, or practically any 8.3 MBT.
If anything, this is just a compression issue at 8.3 - 9.3. The bagel is not the only thing that’s the problem.
