- Yes
- No
- In top tier scout vehicles as a tier 4-5 modification
- As a SP only vehicle like how nukes work
- I would like to see drones getting their own branch like helicopters
- I voted No
History of Bayraktar Red Apple
Red Apple is a UCAV Supersonic Jet produced by Bayraktar. The first designs started as early as 2013. It was shown to the public for the first time in July 2021. It was thought by Bayraktar that it would do its first flight in 2023 but it did it sooner than expected in 2022. Its first engine integration test was done in september 19th 2022 and in december 14th flown for the first time. And in 18th of april it retracted its landing gear for the first time and did high speed manuevers in it. 25th of april it did the worlds first wingman with another Turkish UCAV using its autonomy.
Design
Red Apple is made to be a stealth UCAV, flying along also locally built KAAN 5th generation fighter. It has canards for increase in manuevrability and reduce stress on the wings. Wings are also similar to the F-22 Raptor. It utilises diamond shaped and has a Sharp Edge nose to reduce radar observability. The plane also includes built-in weapons bay which allows it to put missiles or cruise missiles inside of the plane, not having to increase the RCS by putting missiles or bombs in outer pylons.
Specifications
- Capacity: 1,500 kg (3,300 lb)
- Length: 14.7 m (48 ft 3 in)
- Wingspan: 10 m (32 ft 10 in)
- Height: 3.3 m (10 ft 10 in)
- Max takeoff weight: 5,987.4kg (13,200 lb)
- Fuel capacity: unspecified Jet-A1 or JP-8 fuel capacity
- Powerplant: 1 × Ivchenko-Progress AI-322F Turbofan engine, 24.5 kN (5,510 lbf) thrust dry, and 9,900 lbf (44 kN) with afterburner
Performance
- Cruising speed: 0.6 Mach - 637 km/h
- Maximum speed: 0.9 Mach - 1,100 kilometers/hour (590 kn)
- Combat radius: 500 nautical miles (930 km)
- Operational altitude: 35,000 feet (11,000 m)
- Maximum altitude: 45,000 feet (14,000 m)
- Endurance: 4 hours
- G Limit: Unknown
Engine
The engine is a Two-spool low bypass engine with a length of 77 inches and a diameter of 25 and weighs 560kg (1230lbs). It was first designed for the chinese air force by Ivchenko - Progress and was used on Hongdu L-15 but it was later on used for 2 seperate Turkish UCAV’s including The Red Apple.
Weaponry
The weaponry includes the locally built missiles such as the Merlin and Peregrine. Alongside cruise missiles and guided bombs. All the weaponry it can carry will be listed under here. Along with the sources of the weaponry. The Red Apple is also expected to carry 3 pylons under each wing. The plane itself lacks a cannon but there is a project on integrating a 30mm cannon to be used in the plane.
Cannon
- 30x113mm Venom LR
Spoiler
https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/savunma-sanayisi/orta-kalibre-top-kizilelma-ve-atak-2ye-guc-katmaya-hazirlaniyor/2945539
https://www.savunmasanayist.com/bayraktar-kizilelmada-30mm-top-surprizi-yasanabilir/
Air-to-air missiles
- Merlin IR
- Peregrine ARH
- Skyhan ARH with a RAMJET engine.
Air-to-surface missiles
- Cirit Guided rocket.
- Bozok Miniature Guided Missile
- SOM Cruise Missile
Guided and Dumb bombs
- Mark 81, 82, 83 and 84 bombs
- Teber-81 Mark 81 bomb w/ ROKETSAN Laser Guidance Kit
- Teber-82 Mark 82 bomb w/ ROKETSAN Laser Guidance Kit
Spoiler
- HGK-84 Mark 84 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE TUBITAK-SAGE Precision Guidance Kit
- HGK-83 Mark 83 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Precision Guidance Kit
- HGK-82 Mark 82 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Precision Guidance Kit
- HGK-83 Mark 83 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Precision Guidance Kit
- KGK-83 Mark 83 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Wing Assisted Guidance Kit
- KGK-82 Mark 82 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Wing Assisted Guidance Kit
- LHGK-84 Mark 84 bomb w/ TUBITAK-SAGE Laser Sensitive Guidance Kit
- Kuzgun-SS (Free Falling) Bomb
- MAM-C
- MAM-L
- MAM-T
Radar
It uses the same radar found on the F-16 Block 30 “Özgür” retrofitted by local defense companies. Manufacted by Aselsan and called MURAD-100A. Named after Murad 1 an Ottoman sultan. It has an estimated range of 90 kilometers. and is being implemented on UCAV’s. The radar itself was first documented in 2021 in IDEF. But the project had already begun 3 years prior with plans for integration on both the Akıncı UCAV and F-16 aircraft and later on The Red Apple with ASELSAN leading the project under agreements with the M.O.D
Spoiler
MURAD 100-A - ASELSAN
https://www.veryansintv.com/yazar/beyazit-karatas/kose-yazisi/dikkat-kizilelma-cikabilir
- T/R Module amount: 1000 to the power of 31
- T/R Module Processor Type: GaN
- T/R Module Unit Power >=20 Watts
- Total Maximum Radar Transmitter: >=20 Kilowatts
- Cooler type: Liquid
Sources for the radar
Spoiler
MURAD 100-A - ASELSAN
https://www.veryansintv.com/yazar/beyazit-karatas/kose-yazisi/dikkat-kizilelma-cikabilir
How would this work in game?
Now, lets get to the important part. How would this work in your average war thunder match? Since the plane is autonomous. I have 2 ideas on how this would work. Lets check them out together.
Idea number 1:
We allow this aircraft to be spawned in like a nuke, at a reduced cost with more ordinance adding more SP to spawn, such as AAM’s and Bombs, and since we or i atleast dont want it to be so easy to spawn i also suggest not having its SP spawn reduced when a scouted target gets damaged/killed.
Idea number 2:
The aircraft can be spawned in top tier light tanks like a scout drone but costs SP and it flies from the friendly airfield towards the battlefield or flown by the user, taking less than a minute or more depending on the size of the map and can be controlled like a normal plane. When not controlled the aircraft itself could evade missiles, fly low to the battlefield or try to gain air supremacy if allowed by the user.
If there are more ideas from all of you with a good explanation on how it would work, i would love to implement your idea here and change the poll regarding to it.
- Idea 1
- Idea 2
- I voted no
