Yeah it should be higher BR but, cant move up rn because there are no space in 10.0BR - 11.0BR.
You want to see F5C have same BR with ROCAF F5A that is basically same aircraft but has better missiles?
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The f5c should either lose its countermeasures and stay 10.3 or move up to 10.7 yes. F5e should be 11.0 again too.
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Not entirely, Char 25 and AMX 50 are still up, only one that probably deserved being put up was the Souma
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It’s a pretty shitty light tank. It won’t change much.
Pros:
- The Strela finally sits at an appropriate BR,same applies for the Type 81
- The M48 and Merkava reload buffs is super nice
- Nice streamlining for the Chinese M60A3
- Nice streamlining for the 2S25M
- At least some French vehicles remains at 7.7
Cons:
- The AGS still doesn’t have the M900. Either give it the M900 or lower its BR, M833 at top tier is laughable
- The Char 25T will be obliterated if it will face 9.0
- The T20 is useless at that bracket even with the useless APCR
- Good luck using the AMX-50 against T-55s
Yeah… It’s better but not the best still
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It isn’t a br changes of gaijin don’t make at least one italian veichles worse
Sagittario 2 still ruined by making 9.3
What Is wrong with you gaijin?
F-5E to 11.0 I understand, but I don’t understand F-5C to 10.7. It has weak engines, and two poor missiles for that BR. I personally never have any problem fighting them at 10.3. If you remove the counter measures you make it totally useless, and it would need to go down to 10.0 or lower due to premium player performance.
It’ll probably be back when 13.0 arrives… I think one or two BR’s are always going to be at a 0.3 up tier with this system, before it was 11.7, now it’ll be 11.0 for a bit
These changes are somehow just as meh as before:
- It baffles me how the F5E is not being moved up, especially now that there was some decompression; it should be 11.0.
- The Mustangs with 20mm guns being moved up is still honestly a bit questionable with the P51C being at 3.7. The P-51C has way better performance than it deserves to be for 3.7. I have said this in the last feedback session as well.
- The A6M5Ko and the J6K1 being moved up is still not that great to see since the A6M5Ko offers no real performance at 5.3, especially when you consider the A7M2 is at 5.3 with way better performance. The same applies to the J6K1, which is just sad at 6.7, especially when you compare it to the P51H at 6.3.
- “Sagittario II” going to 9.3 is still a bad change with the Ariete being better and also sitting at 9.3. Not to mention the all-aspect missiles it’s gonna face.
- Good changes include:
- Taiwanese F104G being moved to 10.3. It’s a great thing that should have happened some time ago.
- Harrier GR.7 being moved to 11.7 in Sim. It caused mayhem in 10.0-11.0 Sim lobbies.
Not sure how to feel about the Mig29G. It has the best Performance and missile set of any Mig 29 so far. In contrast it has a really lackluster RWR and it does not have a large amount of CM, it might even be subpar for 12.7. Problem is ofc that the plane shouldnt be facing Mig23s and F4s. Basically the same points Ruskie_Turtles has mentioned here before.
We need F104A/C changes, though. There is no reason for them to be 9.3. They are extremely overpowered at 9.3.
Another thing that is missing is a proper BR for 11.0 Aircraft in Sim. Why is there not a single bracket where 11.0s are at the top of the bracket?
Furthermore, the F15s staying at 12.3 is astonishing. They perform really well and are not 12.3 material, especially with the F15J also having access to really good IR-Missiles.
Conclusion:
The post-feedback changes are very lackluster in my opinion. Some good changes were reverted while other planes, which shouldn’t go up, are still going up.
Excuse my long rant and any typos.
(managed to delete my old post on accident.)
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WOW!! This changes are BEST changes I’ve ever seen!!!
BEST stands for:
B Bullcrap
E Earraping
S Shitlike
T Trash
Tons of people complained about French TT and I and many people still can’t understand that these changes are “post feedback”
It’s just hilarious that Gaijin first wanted to nerf British Mustang(Mustang Mk IA) and people asked that that’s same as American P-51, why American one doesn’t go up, and then Gaijin changed P-51 also increases its BR. But you know what? B-26B, which is on American Techtree is same as French B-26C, but only B varient goes down. Gaijin really doesn’t know what vehicle they added to their game until players complaines about it.
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You need to increase the BR and spawn cost for planes in ground RB, this is ridiculous. Like many people said, ground RB is no longer fun when it’s easy to spawn in a plan, they need to earn that spawn, it’s time you change that.
Char 25 is perfect on 7.7 in my opinion.
Every bracket should have a chance to be the max atleast once in the cycle. There’s no reason for them not to be. Currently we have two instances each of 11.3 and 11.7. One of them could easily be 11.0.
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Only reason I could see F-15 being 12.3 is the lack of HMD. It’s still got the overall best flight performance (excluding low speed turn) ingame, so doesn’t make sense.
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what do you mean increase br the best cas planes are gonna be 12.7 now
Overall is good
Could I suggest giving J-8B PL-8 and moving it to 11.3?
Making two 11.0 jets for Chinese air rb is quite unnecessary, everybody just playing J-7E.
Blagorodnyy doesn’t deserve to be the same BR as cruisers like Atlanta. You will be able to face battleships with it, that’s such poorly balancing. Gaijin needs to decompress naval before wanting to uptier destroyers beyond 5.0.
Roland is nerfed to a stupid flying cigarette,Starstreak is totally broken,radar of ASRAD is nerfed to shit
AND
2S6 get a 32G missile and sit still
Strela is only 10.0 while other SPAA in 10.3 are all nerfed/unplayable
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It does make sense though, not having an 11.0 downier means 11.3 doesn’t have to face 12.7, they can’t fit 2 brackets between 11.3 and 12.7.
They’d have to do 11.3-11.7 - 12.0-12.7 or 11.3-12.0 - 12.3-12.7 IMO these brackets are too narrow
We are not having 11.0 downtier for similar reason why 11.7 couldn’t have it when 12.3 was Max, once 13.0 arrives we’ll probably see 11.0 downtier again as I’m predicting we’ll see 11.3-12.0 by then (based on how it’s changed before)
Trust me, I love 11.0 in sim, check my stats and you’ll see. By far my most flown BR.
M4A1 (FL10) → PCOT-51P
EBR 1954 → PCOT-51P
AMX-50 (TO90/930) → HEAT-FS (The same as the M47 Patton)
Char 25t → HEAT-FS
Arcade :
M26 → 6.3
Object 906 → 8.3
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something that would be missing for a next BR change is to move the Su17M2, Su22m3, Su22umk3 to 10.0.
In the br in which they are is to be constantly playing uptier without counting that investigate them completely is a challenge having even some null countermeasure capability or directly not possessing it as is the case of Su17M2.