Moving of BatChat and AMX-50 up, but keeping Somua SM at 7.7 looks like some massive premium bias.
Somua is better then AMX, but is staying at 7.7 even after it got massive turret ring armor buff.
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Copy paste from original cause few of the issues were addressed, it needs a bit of trimming down
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Seconding this in particular, move them to 12.3 if necessary. Being limited to R-60Ms is painful at top tier and the SMT is a sidegrade, not a direct upgrade.
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Ok I understood why the Somua went up but why tf is the AMX-50 TO90 and Char 25T still going up, it makes no damn sense
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It’s time to address the elephant in the room… Again.
Why isn’t 2S38 being moved up to least 10.3 (all modes)?
It’s highly effective against both air (thanks to IR tracking and VT shells) and ground (thanks to 57mm APFSDS).
I’ll just copy-pasta my reasoning from original BR changes feedback
Why?
Great firepower and aircraft tracking which makes it jack of all trades to some extent by being both capable anti-tank and anti-aircraft due to APFSDS and HE-VT shells coupled with decent rate of fire.
In downtiers it’s not uncommon to see players in this vehicle rack up upwards to 10 kills because tanks in those BRs don’t have much armor (example being Leopard 1A5)
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A. Its a light tank, if you play it like an MBT then skill issue, and B) Do you have ANY idea just how rare teh VT-1-2 is compared to the 2S25M? No if they want to give it the best russian round then they need to move it up a helluva lot
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Char 25t and AMX-50 (TO90/930) have 200mm of penetration and go to 8.0 XDDDD
Somua SM and E.B.R. at 8.0 would be more logical. You could just give the old reload for Char 25t and AMX-50 (TO90/930) i.e. 6.7s and leave them on this 7.7.
T20 at 6.3 it’s literally a worse panther but it’s played by good players.
I’m still waiting for you to get your brain together and give a normal br, i.e. 6.3 for M26, 6.7 for M26 is the worst br change you’ve ever made.
Stop punishing people for playing well and start finally giving higher br with machines that are really good, IS-3, 2S38, ZSU-37-2, SU122, Tiger II H, Jagdtiger and all spaa with rockets.
You only nerf the machines of all nations, especially the USA, Japan and France.
You only have huge reservations about balancing vehicles from Germany, USSR, China and Israel because they are played by noobs who do nothing in battles.
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Good job gaijin. Strela going to 10.0 is a much needed change.
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I’m gad to see some of the changes for France were reversed, though still not sure the Char and To90 are 8.0-worthy. France does have a fairly large/ crowded 7.7 lineup, which is probably helping pad the winrates and stats. If they had some sort of APDS or other addition I could see it, but I fear they’re going to be relegated to being played only by higher skill players which will continue to skew their stats.
If we’re going to balance based on match statistics, then that should be weighted by the other stats of that same player. IE if they have a high win-rate with all nations and vehicles they play that should weigh less than someone with a high win-rate with a vehicle who has an overall mediocre win-rate. Weighted averages are common in statistical analysis for a reason.
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AMX 50 TO90 is still beyond me. dont put it up there
No armor
No stab
No LRF
No apds/heatfs/apfsds
just not a 8,0 tank
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They are probably same rarity, cause i barely meet Sprut, just like the VT-1-2. Also why would they, M900 Wolfpack at 10.0 is totally fine, but 3BM60 on much more paper and worse chassis wont be?
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Gaijin do you really want me to belive that the F15 is worse than MIG 29G? Jesus… u really didnt learn anything from the past years. STOP balancing vehicles based on win rate… ofc all the dummies in the world rushed to play those F15’s and lost games in a row. PLEASE fix this, for once listen to the players and see reason.
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AGS is still going too high without M900
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It’s fast only on high attitudes, on the deck It’s on par with others, but good dynamics + maneuverability, so 12.7.
Soon? Anyone know how long it usually takes for them to implement this? Cant wait!
The Sprut ALREADY had a comparable round with 3BM46, 3BM60 is overkill to the extreme, and the Sprut chassis is not what I’d call bad. Again, its a light tank, meaning it really wont have much armor. Its decently mobile and the frontal plates can be trolly with darts. I really dont get why youre comparing a TT vehicle to a very very rare event vehicle. The Sprut didnt need 3BM60, but they gave it anyway, so it should be moved up accordingly
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Therefore, China’s M60TTS is still worse than that of the United States. Maybe Gaijin thinks, “I adjusted the order of ammunition development, so it became stronger”
It’s ridiculous, Gaijin.
Chieftain and T95E1 are still not taken seriously, and it’s great that employees who never play games will never care about these poor vehicles
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Would be nice to see the reload rate of the Merkava 1 and 2 be buffed to its historical 12RPM but it’s probably too much to ask for
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why is the m48a2gA2 still 0.3 higher than the magach 5. They should be the same br. I would even say the magach 5 is better than the m48A2GA2
Kugelblitz at 7.0 is acrime aswell.
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Don’t think the adjustment on the 3BM60 of 2S25M at 10.0 is making sense.
Also the F5E should keep moving up since it indeed have really high combat efficiency.
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