It’ll probably be back when 13.0 arrives… I think one or two BR’s are always going to be at a 0.3 up tier with this system, before it was 11.7, now it’ll be 11.0 for a bit
These changes are somehow just as meh as before:
- It baffles me how the F5E is not being moved up, especially now that there was some decompression; it should be 11.0.
- The Mustangs with 20mm guns being moved up is still honestly a bit questionable with the P51C being at 3.7. The P-51C has way better performance than it deserves to be for 3.7. I have said this in the last feedback session as well.
- The A6M5Ko and the J6K1 being moved up is still not that great to see since the A6M5Ko offers no real performance at 5.3, especially when you consider the A7M2 is at 5.3 with way better performance. The same applies to the J6K1, which is just sad at 6.7, especially when you compare it to the P51H at 6.3.
- “Sagittario II” going to 9.3 is still a bad change with the Ariete being better and also sitting at 9.3. Not to mention the all-aspect missiles it’s gonna face.
- Good changes include:
- Taiwanese F104G being moved to 10.3. It’s a great thing that should have happened some time ago.
- Harrier GR.7 being moved to 11.7 in Sim. It caused mayhem in 10.0-11.0 Sim lobbies.
Not sure how to feel about the Mig29G. It has the best Performance and missile set of any Mig 29 so far. In contrast it has a really lackluster RWR and it does not have a large amount of CM, it might even be subpar for 12.7. Problem is ofc that the plane shouldnt be facing Mig23s and F4s. Basically the same points Ruskie_Turtles has mentioned here before.
We need F104A/C changes, though. There is no reason for them to be 9.3. They are extremely overpowered at 9.3.
Another thing that is missing is a proper BR for 11.0 Aircraft in Sim. Why is there not a single bracket where 11.0s are at the top of the bracket?
Furthermore, the F15s staying at 12.3 is astonishing. They perform really well and are not 12.3 material, especially with the F15J also having access to really good IR-Missiles.
Conclusion:
The post-feedback changes are very lackluster in my opinion. Some good changes were reverted while other planes, which shouldn’t go up, are still going up.
Excuse my long rant and any typos.
(managed to delete my old post on accident.)
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WOW!! This changes are BEST changes I’ve ever seen!!!
BEST stands for:
B Bullcrap
E Earraping
S Shitlike
T Trash
Tons of people complained about French TT and I and many people still can’t understand that these changes are “post feedback”
It’s just hilarious that Gaijin first wanted to nerf British Mustang(Mustang Mk IA) and people asked that that’s same as American P-51, why American one doesn’t go up, and then Gaijin changed P-51 also increases its BR. But you know what? B-26B, which is on American Techtree is same as French B-26C, but only B varient goes down. Gaijin really doesn’t know what vehicle they added to their game until players complaines about it.
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You need to increase the BR and spawn cost for planes in ground RB, this is ridiculous. Like many people said, ground RB is no longer fun when it’s easy to spawn in a plan, they need to earn that spawn, it’s time you change that.
Char 25 is perfect on 7.7 in my opinion.
Every bracket should have a chance to be the max atleast once in the cycle. There’s no reason for them not to be. Currently we have two instances each of 11.3 and 11.7. One of them could easily be 11.0.
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Only reason I could see F-15 being 12.3 is the lack of HMD. It’s still got the overall best flight performance (excluding low speed turn) ingame, so doesn’t make sense.
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what do you mean increase br the best cas planes are gonna be 12.7 now
Overall is good
Could I suggest giving J-8B PL-8 and moving it to 11.3?
Making two 11.0 jets for Chinese air rb is quite unnecessary, everybody just playing J-7E.
Blagorodnyy doesn’t deserve to be the same BR as cruisers like Atlanta. You will be able to face battleships with it, that’s such poorly balancing. Gaijin needs to decompress naval before wanting to uptier destroyers beyond 5.0.
Roland is nerfed to a stupid flying cigarette,Starstreak is totally broken,radar of ASRAD is nerfed to shit
AND
2S6 get a 32G missile and sit still
Strela is only 10.0 while other SPAA in 10.3 are all nerfed/unplayable
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It does make sense though, not having an 11.0 downier means 11.3 doesn’t have to face 12.7, they can’t fit 2 brackets between 11.3 and 12.7.
They’d have to do 11.3-11.7 - 12.0-12.7 or 11.3-12.0 - 12.3-12.7 IMO these brackets are too narrow
We are not having 11.0 downtier for similar reason why 11.7 couldn’t have it when 12.3 was Max, once 13.0 arrives we’ll probably see 11.0 downtier again as I’m predicting we’ll see 11.3-12.0 by then (based on how it’s changed before)
Trust me, I love 11.0 in sim, check my stats and you’ll see. By far my most flown BR.
M4A1 (FL10) → PCOT-51P
EBR 1954 → PCOT-51P
AMX-50 (TO90/930) → HEAT-FS (The same as the M47 Patton)
Char 25t → HEAT-FS
Arcade :
M26 → 6.3
Object 906 → 8.3
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something that would be missing for a next BR change is to move the Su17M2, Su22m3, Su22umk3 to 10.0.
In the br in which they are is to be constantly playing uptier without counting that investigate them completely is a challenge having even some null countermeasure capability or directly not possessing it as is the case of Su17M2.
They’d be really op at 10.0, I could see 10.3. Only one that could go the 10.0 would be su17m2. Um3k has countermeasures and is faster than most things at 10.3 even.
I can tell you why, USA is the most played nation so is the one which most players spend more money on it, so they’re vehicles always need to be in a good place, is like what they did with the t34 in the us tech tree.
They raised all the heavy ones of those BRs (is6, is3, Caernarvon, etc.) but they never raised the t34 to 7.0, because the “community” or rather the us mains complained, it is also the same reason why they do not raise the f15 , not even the Japanese with their aam-3.
It’s funny since the “community” complains that this game has a pro-russia bias, but I would say that the bias is for someone else. Sincerely (strela 9.0 to 9.3, now they were going to raise it to 9.7 but it is not enough according to the “community” now to 10.0, of course, the bias is in russia brother…
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in that br at least there are things that can deal with them facially the problem would be when it touches 9.7
Some of the french 7.7 still go to 8.0 and are just dead to most people. Also extremely not needed since the TO-55 is at 8.0 with a stabilizer, apds and heat.
The Japanese A6m5 ko and the J6K1 going up when it’s just people that ground pound and turn fight because they have no clue how to play the game. While the P51h stays at 6.3 with having superior performance. The f5e and the f15 again why aren’t them going up in BR? USA has the most underBRd planes in the game. It’s crazy how bad the pilots are compared with their planes.
The AGS goes to 11.0 and will die there having equivalent firepower to 9.3 vehicles, and don’t start with flanking. Gaijin is slowly killing flanking on most maps. And even from the side you will not go through T-80s because of reasons.
And don’t know what else to say. Only that it’s a complete lack of understanding of their own game and/or not caring enough to actually make the required changes.
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U guys should consider the Challenger 1 MK3 DS situation make it 10.3 and ad the L26 round to make it decent because that tank is lacking A LOT in the br that it is and the oponents that see
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The APCR is useless but the T20 won’t be. I’ve played it near exclusively at 6.3 and it performed just fine.
Gaijin these are some great changes and I commemorate you on taking the feedback to heart, but why is the falcon still being moved up? It doesn’t belong at 8.3 along with the likes of the marksman and the za-35, its slower, doesn’t have radar and would deprive GB of any AA between the 5.3-8.3 range. The falcon is needed as an spaa for Britain’s 8.0 lineup. This thing should not be able to face against things such as the SU-7B or the f-100’s, its just not good enough at this BR range. If it performs too well as a tank destroyer then you should just remove the sabot and keep it at 8.0, because having to use the bosvark or skink at 8.0 is just ridiculous. And even if it is very good as a tank destroyer there is no way it should be .3 BR higher than the WZ305 which has HE-VT and APCBC at 8.0, which allows it to be better both as anti air and a tank destroyer.
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