Agreed - i guess in the next 10 years i would not exclude to see BP stuff like this:
![[Approved] NC-1 X-Wing - Approved Starships - Star Wars RP: Chaos](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/86/64/2b86643d19346b8d6633051914411a0f.jpg)
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I’d rather not have unique aircraft, ships, or tanks be locked behind what would eventually become a massive paywall. Sure, it’s not much incentive to grind it, but that also saves special and unique vehicles for more people to be able to enjoy.
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The US has plenty of aircraft they can use. This doesnt have to be tit for tat with vehicles
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there is A LOT of interesting vehicles that could be added, just take a look into suggestions on the forum
problem is - gaijin would rather copyslop some american plane with a different livery instead of actually putting in the effort to add something new
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The bigger the game gets the more money it costs to sustain it.
One way to achive that is C&P, P2W and trying to make people spent money on grinding.
But that makes the game worse and in the end it’s just means people are going to quit.
Which just enforces the previous behaviour and the game ruins itself.
The gameplay is very repetive and the sole motivation factor is grinding modules and vehicles instead of playing for fun.
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There is a lot of negativity in this thread, so I would like to add a positive comment by thanking the developpers for not making me grind the next battle pass. I will be able to take it a lot easier in the next few months. As other people have said, it is better than dealing with the pressure of having a single chance to obtain unique or interesting vehicles before they are locked behind a paywall.
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They are doing a great job of killing the product they want to sell so it should actually cost less to maintain it.
I’ve not felt any need to donate any Koha (money) to the Snail for BP in a long time. I’m not paying good money for skins I can get off WTLive for free.
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ok now this is the worst BP in the games history
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Japan has plenty of domestic designs for this BR/time frame. Why oh why are you introducing things like American C&P for WW2 BR’s!?
I guess the GDR T-34-85’s and IS-2’s will be soon…
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Is this real? Stop this C&P hell.
If you lack Ideas, just be more creative. Like handing out Saburo Sakai’s prem Zero with originial paintjob.
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Even if gaijin doesn’t want to go through the effort of modeling unique vehicles for events, there are so many from earlier events that could be reintroduced like the I-301, Jaguar, Yak-3T, KV-220, Lubeck etc. instead of this pointless copypasta. Some of them have disappeared from the marketplace entirely so it’d make sense to bring them back for new events and battle passes
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when the UK got the SA tree, I thought nice, loads of new unique vehicles. Yet the SA sub tree was really smoke and mirrors from the Snail. Their dislike for adding truly new, unique vehicles has meant that they have ruined the Swedish, Italian, French and now Japanese trees (in aviation, I don’t play Tanks and Ships but I know they are full of American and Russian Copy Paste too).
This short sighted call means I’ll only play Germany, UK, USA and Russia now. When those trees are spaded out, that will be me done with WT and given I’ve nearly finished them in aviation, that will mean a lot more time to focus on LIFE and other games, not the incessant grind for a reskinned plane or tank I originally researched 5-8 years ago.
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Rank II
Great!
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Rank III it was error
You can do this with a 60 kg bomb dropped by a B7A2 in Air RB.
The B7A2s best loadout is 10 x 60 kg - 9 of them kills every base, i always keep the last one - and a hell of rookies land on the not aaa protected forward airfield.
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Edit (17-03-25) View from an Air RB perspective:
I finished the 20.000 mission score BP task in the SB2C-5 an decided to update & partly revise my assessment of this plane in a few points.
My impressions:
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I needed 31 matches to get this 20.000 mission score goal (24 wins, 77% WR) died 2 times and scored 35 air kills in it, (i estimate 30% ai planes). I bombed not a single base in these matches (i flew it as a fighter with gun pods), but i killed 35 ground units too, mainly stationary BTR AAs and pillboxes.
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So pure from a statistical pov the plane is not bad, but i disliked every minute in it. Mainly as i fly exclusively with a HOTAS in Air RB (with SFC, not FR, instructor slides “off”, main instructor slide “on” to benefit from the auto-trimm). The plane is extremely unstable to fly, using in-game chat almost impossible as the plane goes to the left and down after a few seconds.
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If you fly it with mouse aim the instability of the aircraft is compensated by the instructor - i watched some replays showing mouse aim pilots fly smooth and stable.
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With a defensive play style the plane is not bad if you have some experience, my 2 deaths were one time Pe-8 return fire whilst extending (what else) and one time plain stupidity as my prop hit the roof of a pillbox.
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From an multipler perspective (300% SL, 272 % RP) the plane is inferior to the BP B7A2 (380% SL, 296% RP).
Pros:
- Bomber spawn
- Excellent firepower
- Excels in full downtiers
- Can kill 2 bases
Cons:
- Extremely bad high alt performance (>4-5 km)
- Extremely bad climb
- Severe issues in full uptiers
- Success depends mainly on enemy
My personal summary:
Another BP plane i won’t touch again - even as it is way better than the US PBM-5 Mariner (which is useless in Air RB).
Direct comparison with BP B7A2:
- The B7A2 (even the TT version) outruns and outclimbs the Helldiver substantially - in other words the B7A2s are the better aircraft.
- The Helldiver can’t escape or get out of unfavorable conditions - so whilst u can outclimb enemy fighters like I-185s above 6 km (thx to the very good high alt power) - or outrun 109s at sea level (coming in with a slight dive) in B7A2s - the Helldiver has not such options.
- The Helldiver has vs a B7A2 imho just one major advantage: Superior firepower with gun pods (0.50 cals with late war belts). But this doesn’t matter when your enemies are way faster or above 5 km as you won’t be able to bring guns on target.
- To be fair: The SB2C-5 is not that stiff (rolling) and from my pov better suited to fight extremely nimble planes in full downtiers; enemies like B-239s or even Spitfires can’t escape if your drop on them with air brake - the fire power kills them in seconds.
- Killing Wyverns is almost impossible as the rip speed is even lower than the 680 kmph of the B7A2s - the 2 or 3 Wyvern i killed got killed by own mistakes - and with long bursts from 0.7-0.9 km.
In other words:
- Success (scoring and staying alive in order to win and maximize RP income) in this aircraft strongly depends on the quality of the enemies.
- Every experienced enemy will drain the energy provided by the bomber spawn and outclimb the Helldiver. Getting outclimbed is a death sentence if enemies refuse to turn fight - the plane needs to be played like Bv 155 as lost energy / altitude won’t come back.
- Turnarounds (like winning 1 vs 4) are almost impossible as the Helldiver can’t create positional advantage due to lack of speed & climb.
- The success of JP / Thai Helldivers i see in battles (a lot of non-pilots score 3-4 kills per match) is based on multiple head-ons and/or just clueless enemy bomber & fighter pilots.
- Whilst the B7A2 excels in full uptiers and struggles fighting much more nimble enemies in full downtiers - the Helldiver faces a serious performance disadvantage in full uptiers and shines in full downtiers if nimble enemies are all low.
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Maybe they’ll finally lower the BR once German mains get their hands on it
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I should try, but I don’t have your accuracy skill ;)
call it the Battle PASS the way everyone be hard passing these lame as copy paste vehicles