At this point it would be better to give boxes with random camo instead of copy paste, out of its place, vehicles. Rank1 box at level 10, rank2 box at level 20 and so on. And spice it up with random talismans at level 50 and 100.
No additional work required, money practically prints itself.
No need for camos, Talismans and more premiums in the BP shop - mayby RankIV
and if you have all of them a gold wager!!! at least give the GE to buy something else
I’d love to see a helicopter, or big naval vessel be the bigger prize tbh.
A helicopter would be a unique reward too.
As much as I love ground, the main prize being a mid to low tier tank everytime is disgusting.
They could add:
New Russian “battle worn” T-62
New American “Tropic thunder” m60
New Chally… oh wait, they made that an event one…
New anything pretty much.
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I miss when it was just anti consumer practices, horrible balancing, and no rewards.
I like this reward for one thing. It is already existing tank ingame, which means less time taken to work on the rest of the vehicles.
I mean, there is already a crap ton of vehicles in the game and the overall quality suffers because of that.
I would prefer less vehicles with higher quality standard rather than a lot of unfinished vehicles.
Would I like to see new and unique vehicles? Sure, but not at the cost taking care of those already ingame.
Where did you get the info?
Dont forget about fact that it was FIRST heavy tank for sweden alowing them to finally be able to complete various BP or daily missions on getting kills w/ heavy tank and even now they can only really do them using either Kungstiger or KV-1, so Kungstiger was actually useful addition, M46 for France really does not bring anything new to table in comparison.
Sweden really needs some domestic heavy tho, KRV/Kranvagn would be cool and Italy could also get either Romanian captured Tiger I or Hungarian 44M Tas, which was more or less Panther that hit the gym.
i dont mind having the same tank on another country tree, i see a problem where this will be a “reward” for a BP, unless they bring a Third vehicle that justifies it, ist gonna be seen as a low effort BP
The Emil just isnt real enough.
Think a few days ago was talking about it with someone in the shir 2 topic, ended up reading the declassified information from a swedish military museum, 93 pages long it was.
Would of been one hell of a machine had it been developed past the hull.
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As someone said could if made it the m47 with the french 105mm
The other problem here that hasn’t been mentioned is this seems to mark the start of a bleed over of imaginary camoes listed as “historical”. I very much doubt any French M46 had the orange camo, which seems very artistic, in real life. As mentioned , they were trainer tanks for France, only in service for a few months. Nor do I think one was called “Legionnaire” in service. Happy to be proven wrong on that.
Until now, Gaijin has held a pretty strong line on fictional camoes, unlike the competition (with exceptions), but this is basically another tiger-striped Tiger, being tricked up it seems because there’s nothing else much really interesting about it. This BP bodes poorly for that continuing into 2025.
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What a terrible looking battlepass. Remember when we used to get vehicles like…
this…
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and this…
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Granted, even in the early days they often couldn’t help but put vehicles that differed little from the tech-tree variants (apart from some largely cosmetic differences), such as…
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But the M46 is just a snooze fest in general. Especially when you’ve already added Battlepass vehicles for France, such as the EBR (1963) and AMX-50. In fact, at 7.0, the M46 sits at a BR where you simply wouldn’t bother using it to begin with. Simple put, I’m not even mad at taking an existing vehicle and adding it to another nation. I’m mad that America has designed possibly the most boring tanks in history with the Patton series of tanks. And to top it off, Gaijin haven’t even tried to make it an interesting one (like those ones that strap a butt load of hydra rockets to it, or China’s ERA to the max job in the CM-11).
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And again, many, many people complained about having “good” vehicles “locked behind a paywall”.
Be careful what you/we wish for, things are not simply black or white. There will always be a percent of the crowd who is dissatisfied.
I am not taking sides here, but the amount of hyperbole (from all sides of this debate) is nauseating. Not calling you or anyone in particular out, your post is one of the few without profanities. All the other negativity I see on the forums isn’t going to help anyone.
It is always going to be a compromise in the end. We need to try and agree as much as possible on a middle solution. Because the loudest complainers got what they wanted last time: “no good vehicles behind a paywall”. No one should be surprised at the result.
This is one reason why I try and consistently leave positive feedback when I see things happening that I like. I don’t want the loudest most obnoxious complainers and posters to be the only ones giving feedback. That is how we end up in a situation like this. Also why I leave likes on positive or at least constructive posts, even if I disagree with the “side” of the argument they are on. Every like that is added to a negative or profane post only hurts us collectively.
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You always will have the cries from the freeloaders. They’re under the assumption that War Thunder is free. I’ve paid for the 2500GE every battlepass bar one (had to miss during final year of degree). If anything, they should be prioritising people like myself who are willing to spend money for the Battlepass. Gaijin is a business at the end of the day, no middle ground needed for those not willing to put up. Hey, maybe we can give them something to really cry about when they shout ‘wahh pay to win’.
Simply put: If Gaijin wants me to partake in the Battlepass - they need to make it worthwhile, or they will not only miss out on my GE, but they will miss out on me playing modes like Naval that are struggling for players (You can argue that Battlepass is keeping naval alive in many aspects with the naval challenges).
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There should no zero vehicles that should be in the TT that are locked behind a pawall in a BP. France lost out on all opportunities to get EBRs (except the overtiered TT one) because of events like that.
Under no circumstances should that happen, because paywalling vehicles that a TT needs should never be done.
What a terrible take. Gaijin needs to prioritize all players rather than the whales.
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Do you have premium time?
I decided to buy some for the first time in December.
To expand on my stance, I think BP vehicles work best as something that is unique, but not necessarily needed. The Churchill crocodile, and the He-177 are good examples of them in my opinion.
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Awesome 👍
I honestly think it is time for there to be votes that are only open to those with premium time. Maybe even 90-180+ days, so that people can’t just buy a day’s worth to skew an important vote. If we want an “easy”/direct way to allow the company to make money, while still keeping things like the Battle Passes and/or Events worthwhile, then imo Premium Time is one of the best ways to do it. The money is consistent, and incentivizes the players to keep playing the game.
If we all want this game to continue onward, keep the servers well maintained etc, then the company has to make money. Especially as we get closer towards a time when there really aren’t many/any vehicles left to add that people can purchase.
This is a FTP game, but nothing is actually free. If you are not paying for a product then you are the product. I do not disagree with those who take issue with the Battle Passes or Events, however, I DO take strong issue when the people complaining put $0 into the game, especially with something relatively reasonable like Premium Time (especially its price when on sale.)
I have seen many people who are “proud” that they contribute no money into the game, but feel like they should be able to complain and make demands loudly and often with profanity. I am getting pretty sick of it actually. Most other projects/companies and games have a “supporters” chat/site/area where those who support the effort the most are the ones who get a bigger say in how the project is run. I think it is high time that Gaijin does the same for War Thunder.
Yes, I like the Premium Time because it speeds things up, gives more SL’s, but I also buy it to support the company that makes and maintains the game I enjoy playing.
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Seriously? What idiot thought of a French battle pass? Even a Israeli battle pass would’ve been much much better.
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