its math that anyone that passed math1 in collge understands
Apparently not
yeah apparently you didnt pass math1
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You can’t just add them together.
I am one. You’re wrong.
Your adding up to a total that doesn’t exist because you can’t add vectors as a+b, you have to add them as sqrt(a^2 + b^2). If you start with 20k thrust and angle the nozzle to 60 deg you don’t suddenly have a new total thrust of 27,320, the total is still only 20k. The horizontal will be 10,000 (50% of the initial) and the vertical 17,320 (86.6% of the initial). (Or if you do your weird math that doesn’t exist; the horizontal becomes 36.6% and the vertical 63.4%)
You’re applying the wrong kind of math to a problem and getting a faulty result. It’s like trying to use sine and cosine when calculating temperature because it’s in degrees, it doesn’t work like that. You cant add two vectors together to get a new total and use percentages against the new non-existent total.
you are the forums’ most intelligent poster
it is baffling to me that you persist posting anywhere wt related honestly you are just way smarter than everyone that keeps trying to prove you wrong, maybe consider pursuing a masters in aero and never returning
this is haunting
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I don’t care about any of the resultant vector crap I already said that its fine
Simplify it some more
with the nozzles at 60 degrees where is it achieving the most acceleration up or forwards
or will they both be equal.
at 60° the horizontal force will be 50% of what it is at 0°
its not that hard
answer my question
your question is irrelevant to this quote
becasue nobody has been saying what you are trying to imply the whole time
No one in this conversation NO ONE has claimed they will be equal.
You’re the only one saying that we are claiming that when we are not and have never been claiming that.
Being 50% of the input does NOT mean that it’s equal to the other vector. The other vector will be 86.6% of the input. They are not equal but one of them is still 50% of the input, both thing are true at the same time.
He is using horizontal thrust components comparatively with the F-18
feetpics did infact suggest its horizontal thrust is 50% of the total when the nozzles are 60 degrees down
meaning in that situation the aircraft would accelerate equal parts forward and up
that’s not what would happen if the nozzles are at 60 degrees.
However you want to try justify it is on you
This is where your logic goes wrong, being 50% of the total does not mean that the other is the same size. it’s not 50% of the made up non existent new total that you are adding in to the mix. it’s 50% of the initial thrust before applying the angle.
if that’s what you need to say to make him happy go ahead.
guess NASA is also a feetpics fan
no
Okay, lets go down to grade school; Pythagoras theorem, one side is length 3, the other is length 4. the hypothenuse is not 7, it’s 5. 3 is bigger than half of 5, but still smaller than 4. You are doing your math with 7 that doesn’t exist.