BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

you are the forums’ most intelligent poster

it is baffling to me that you persist posting anywhere wt related honestly you are just way smarter than everyone that keeps trying to prove you wrong, maybe consider pursuing a masters in aero and never returning

this is haunting

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I don’t care about any of the resultant vector crap I already said that its fine

Simplify it some more

with the nozzles at 60 degrees where is it achieving the most acceleration up or forwards

or will they both be equal.

at 60° the horizontal force will be 50% of what it is at 0°

its not that hard

answer my question

your question is irrelevant to this quote
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becasue nobody has been saying what you are trying to imply the whole time

No one in this conversation NO ONE has claimed they will be equal.
You’re the only one saying that we are claiming that when we are not and have never been claiming that.

Being 50% of the input does NOT mean that it’s equal to the other vector. The other vector will be 86.6% of the input. They are not equal but one of them is still 50% of the input, both thing are true at the same time.

He is using horizontal thrust components comparatively with the F-18

feetpics did infact suggest its horizontal thrust is 50% of the total when the nozzles are 60 degrees down

meaning in that situation the aircraft would accelerate equal parts forward and up

that’s not what would happen if the nozzles are at 60 degrees.

However you want to try justify it is on you

This is where your logic goes wrong, being 50% of the total does not mean that the other is the same size. it’s not 50% of the made up non existent new total that you are adding in to the mix. it’s 50% of the initial thrust before applying the angle.

if that’s what you need to say to make him happy go ahead.

guess NASA is also a feetpics fan
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no

then @Necronomica isnt one either

Okay, lets go down to grade school; Pythagoras theorem, one side is length 3, the other is length 4. the hypothenuse is not 7, it’s 5. 3 is bigger than half of 5, but still smaller than 4. You are doing your math with 7 that doesn’t exist.

He messed up at that point. But you really do have problems with vectors, their understanding and how to add them.

Go watch his little youtube channel on your ipad broski.

He gave the total thrust output as 28,000 and then said that 14,000 of that was going horizontally backwards.

meaning half of all the TOTAL thrust would be going backwards even though the nozzles are pointing more down then up

Jesus, its still ongoing xD

Funny who flagged it…
At the time this was writing it was topic as 2 dudes were discussing something for litarall Days because “Cos 60”

which is the case at an angle of 60°
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I don’t really just mind numbed from this entourage of feet pics fans trying to justify his error

This is correct, the vertical would then be 24,248. which is bigger than 14,000, but 14,000 is still half of 28,000.

so then you have to think that a nozzle pointing more down then backwards is imparting an equal force both ways for this to be correct in the context of the harrier