On the SHars it’s totally broken. Will be fixed if/when we get EEGS.
Though I don’t think it works all that great on aircraft where it is functional like the F3s
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Ah ok. A gunsight is kinda a crucial component when in the cockpit. Hope it gets sorted soon. It would be nice if we could get the the target cross you tend to get in ground mode so i have something to atleast better eyeball my shots until EEGS is added.
Why it’s fixed range sight mode is broken is the most confusing.
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I know this isn’t quite the right thread but I was wondering if anyone here could confirm if any of the British Harrier’s were equipt with the AN/ASA-63 or -83, as it ties into a report that I’ve got on the go at the moment, As I have documentation for the US AV-8A & -8C being equipt with the -83, or really any further documentation for the ASA-83, though I do know that it replaces the mentioned Double D pattern with a Rosette scan as the point of difference.
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With Falklands map coming, need SHars fully functional next major
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Was looking at the BOL on the Sea Harrier FA.2 and noticed that there is plenty of space on the dual Sidewinder rack for both missiles to get a BOL rail and still sit comfortably without clipping or touching anything. I wonder if it is possible to use BOL on the dual rails IRL, I know it was never tested (or photographed at least) but It would be nice if we could get Gaijin to do that for us
Pretty sure it was trialed on the AV-8B, but the quality of the image makes it hard to distinguish the adapter that was used, See Figure 1 in the following document.
The AV8B is American and I’m concerned about the Shar 2 getting it
*getting the twin sw launcher
Not sure what if anything this has to do with the Twin SW pylon on SHAR or the BOL-304 rails?
Seems it’s just mounted on the skrakes.
Also, BOL on SHAR is literally wired up to the airbrake switch in the cockpit. If your airbrake is up, pressing up again dispenses BOL. Ahah.
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I heard early in the forum about that but I thought that it meant the flares came out of the airbrake instead of behind it but I’m glad that is not the case.
Why not just have the countermeasures in a panel next to the throttle like the F16? It’s a easy and simple solution and even the F15 came out at the same time as the Shar
Because it was a rushed integration. Barely integrated at all. I really doubt given how janky the setup is that it could work on the twin pylon. We’re not talking about Harrier II here where it is integrated and part of its DASS suite.
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Really? I thought they had been developing it for years and had properly thought things through.
Those are BOL rails (LAU-138), As they are the only thing in inventory (other than the ALE-58, but that is a USAF variant of the BOL rail integrated into the LAU-128 Joint Common Launch Rail used by the F-15 ) that can fit the AN/MJU-52/B BOL-IR Countermeasure packet as subsequently referenced in the report.
I don’t think it’s mounted to the outer fuselage station(s), as the Chaff loading gate features is angled wrong for to be mounted to those as the rotation of the dispenser itself would be wrong for the mating surface to meet those of the station, also they don’t use a MAU-12 compatible station to mount the strakes / gunpod, due to the way that aerodynamic forces and moments get transferred to the airframe, they need to be mounted more solidly and thus why you don’t see non strake / gunpod stores able to be mounted on them (outside of ground clearance issues).
The scan of the image isn’t great, which causes the issue as it isn’t immediately obvious
I’d contend that it’s a LAU-115 mounted to the centerline station (could alternately be a BRU-32, with a series of adapters (?ADU-229?) to produce the observed rotation & spacing) with dual side mounted LAU-138 to match the rotation of the Features that are discernable from the image, at least to me.
So there is at least some configuration of dual BOL rails that has been documented
It’s not the first time things like this have occurred, many switches and HOTAS buttons change functionality if weight is on wheels, or the gear is down. For example many use the Nosewheel Steering button to reject / cage /step over missiles.
I guess it’s also better than directly stowing countermeasures in the Airbrake like the F-15 did because the ALE-40 was provisioned for but not mounted for basically the first 15 years of it’s service due to starting as an Interceptor replacing the Aging F-106 in the Homeland defense / Air patrol mission set.
For Shar no not at all. Even the CRL/BOL mod is a bodge job after they realised the full AMRAAM load resulted in just having the ALE-40s for chaff.
It already has twin BOL. Just not 4x with two on each twin SW mount. Not a huge amount is known about the twin mount but I suspect wiring up BOL through it isn’t possible.
Do we know what the designation is for the dual rails & the requisite adapter(s) used in that configuration would be?
Potentially even if they could, depending on the Bus-bar tie in, the dispensers may not be separately addressable and so always be stuck in paired release, which is the issue with the AV-8A, even though it has cockpit indicators for 4x AIM-9 it can only mount two due to the ECP to permit this not being procured.
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It was just named “Twin sidewinder launcher” in the manual. I think one route would be to try and get the servicing docs for the launcher. I might have to explore that to put this issue to bed.
Maybe if we could get a look at a Shar 2 that hasn’t had the wires removed yet or we get hold of the build blueprints used for building then maybe we could confirm if it was possible or not. Doesn’t @Flame2512 have a Shar 2 in his yard?
Sounds like an average wt user, got so many keys to bind nowadays you gota fold them together. My toggle laser key is (` + e) lol. Apparently thats bad coming from my friend that uses alt + f to lock targets on radar… Mines middle mouse button as it locks as well as squad pings.
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