BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

Logged and open, our first attempt didn’t have enough comparative evidence to make a decision on the how much to reduce. Just waiting on the second report being actioned.

Well the Lockheed fanboys didn’t really like it when I said the F-35 wasn’t designed for dogfighting and the video saying that it was is a load of bullshit as well.

The people that worked on the plane largely thought my take was correct.

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The only thing I think is meaningful to add for the Harriers for flight performance is adding drag to the nozzles as they rotate so we can properly hover stop. That way you can actually employ the one of limited number of tricks the Harrier can do in Air to Air.

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Really? Lmao

So no buff to their climb rate acceleration VIFF or sustained turn rate?

But I suppose that would be 1 part of VIFF

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Directional exhaust and associated effects would be awesome.

Though at the moment, I would be just as happy to get

In the future, corrections to the FM would be awesome though I feel Gaijin will just hide behind “game limitations” for those indefinitely like they did with the Tornado.

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Frustrating I get it, but you already know the deal with HUD/MFD work, its been getting better for sure, but its still an as and when its done addition.

So far nothing’s had it done so maybe?

It’s open awaiting action I’ll give it a nudge.

Didn’t have the pylons ready at the time it was introduced.

Would be nice sure, but thats a developer decision if they do it or not.

Suggestion forum is for this purpose so good luck.

I’ll forward this in the evening.

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Yeah, but they could have at least given a fixed gunsight in the cockpit instead of leaving it with none. Its an aircraft that is rather dependent on still using its gun and its left aiming basicly blind, the aircraft is almost worse off currently in SB than it was before the changes were made

Which is just a bit wierd to me, especially why some aircraft were even given a sooty exhaust in the first place like the EFT? Is it just the default?

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Yeah, which I half get, though its been 2 major updates and not added yet, just worth regular poking so it doesnt end up in the ether.

Yeah, but frustrating given the AV-8S (late) has 4x the CM count and a better RWR at the same BR and 1.3 BR lower (given the premium version has the same RWR and CM count)

Yeah, though ive only ever gotten a single suggestion forwarded to the devs, the rest are still waiting to be forwarded even some after 3 years. Might need to go message a suggestion mod about it actually. Getting a tad annoying. Especially when ive seen some skin suggestions forwarded literally within a week of going up.

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Pretty sure my only ones have been April fools jokes hahaha.

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They wouldnt accept my one to get Mr Beans mini as a recon vehicle this year. Very disappointed

What about

The FRS.2 paint with the nose art and the other frs1 scheme


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Does look good, but feel that would be most appropriate for the FRS1 (SQV). Kinda wanting a skin for the FRS1e given its gotten none and is using the peacetime blue colours which just feels wrong. (Ive got a WT.Live skin for me, but other players wont see that and so I can only imagine I stick out like a sore thumb in SB)

I mean it sticks out real bad already lol.

But yes a corporate scheme would be cool.

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Really don’t get what you’re getting at anyways.

Do you think a sea harrier should be beating a F-4E in visual or no.

Goated as always :D

I mostly want the IR signature fix, Sooty exhaust fixed (along with other jets) and ofc, its climb rate fix (assuming this fix would fix the 30ish% missing thrust at highspeed too)

This goes for all the harriers ^

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They think it’s thrust and time to climb is correct

Sustained turn rate too despite missing about 1G in that department

I thought they said they know the thrust is wrong, but its just a bodge job to make the top speed/acceleration roughly match IRL docs and so they wont fix the thrust curves

It’s missing top speed though regardless. But it made sense before the other data was available.

620 knots at sea level clean

With pylons and guns it should be 595 or so increased significantly with normal lift too 615 with that drag.

Sharky has a part in his book saying he was at low level over 600 knots with drop tanks and missiles.

There isn’t a doc for this that they have

Only the technical report I has, has got them as far as I’ve seen.

first productive harrier discussion I’ve ever seen

They all used to be like that until I showed up

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