Yeah that angle off attack irl would cause it to stall the wing
Above .8 Mach you can cause spins with little buffet warning.
It should be noted that Ny values in game are not correct due to difference in reference dimension.
I.E if you take Ny values for F-15C and run them through turn rate equation…they will actually underestimate the actual in-game performance. So this turn is actually probably greater than 8G in real world terms.
Doubt it that’s just the gauge readings
The F-14 is a scaled slightly ; for 0 to 30 units AoA corresponds to a probe angle of -10 through +40 degrees
Though this may have changed since the AoA sensor was replaced during production (effective with the begining of Block 90 airframes) of the -A model so may differ for Late A’s, -14B, & -14D aircraft
From the F-14A’s Preliminary Flight Manual page 1-127 [PDF page #225]
“Angle of attack is displayed by a vertical tape on a calibrated scale from 0 to 30 units, equivalent to a range of -10 to +40 angular degrees of rotation of the probe.”
“The climb reference marker is set to 8.5 units, the cruise marker at 9.5 units and stall warning marker at 16”
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You doubt something that developers have directly verified? Lmao.
Idk where you come from but thats literally worse then nothing evidence. People are the worst link and should never be relied on
The local host Ny is very close to the G value.
The cockpit gauges are typically 1 G more then actually G
There are tons of primary documents stating similar values if you scroll up
It is not. If you take localhost Ny value and use the values in a turn rate equation it will give you the wrong results and it is dependent on AoA. This is easily a verifiable fact and has been verified by the developers. This is not subject to debate.
Nobody is talking about cockpit gauges in War Thunder. Flames clip is not using the cockpit guage at all.
Ok?
So what G would it be then by your calculations.
I looked at this again.
By my interpretation (I’ve provided the sources so anyone can come to their own conclusions) you can pull 7.5G at 450 knots at about 13 degrees AOA. With a weight of 16,000 lbs.
The maximum obtainable AOA full stick back for the Gr.1 would be about 16 degrees at this Mach number.
The maneuvering boundary and the test used where limited to absolutely no more then 15 degrees add and the tests where done to the Lateral Oscillation level.
What i-ntelligent human being let you back onto the forums?
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is he wrong
Usually yeah
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Ohhh toodles
There’s another primary source. States the same G I do.
According to gaijin the turn rates seen here are impossible even using 21 degrees AOA.
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Turns out the original E-M diagram is for the older Gr.3s with the worse engine. (mk101-102)
The later diagram courtesy of @Flame2512 appears to include the Mk103 after the VIFF trials. (1975 ish)
The other E-M chart would be for the Gr.1
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Sea Harrier / Gr.3 (Mk103-104 engines)
Sustained turn rate at 450 knots is 11 D/S vs 12.5 at 85% throttle
Instantaneous turn rate can be achieved using 18+ degrees AOA. (According to the RtoS 18 degrees AOA is not even possible at this Mach number 15-16 degrees AOA is the Maximum achievable and 13 degrees AOA would be the ITR for the real thing.)
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Please don’t make a 6th bug report saying the same thing as the last 5
I’m not making any more