BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

That’s impressively bad.

You could probably use less flares if you dropped them later too.

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Makes no difference I’ve tried all types of things in testing this is just the averages of that.
Anything less that 4 sets of 2 flare bursts will just not be enough to avoid a hit.

R60MK lmao

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Massive disadvantage.

Wait. Gaijin has the Harriers modelled as hot as a full after burning Typhoon? I knew it was too hot but christ thats ridiculous.

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Yes basically lol

Here’s a good example video. The Harriers FM as it is right now is better than even the T-2

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I’m still getting the hang of how it flies, but it’s definitely better than almost anything at speeds below 600ish kmh. I’m quite happy that they’re worth playing now.

I still think that the Q-5s/Mig-19s, and the J-7E all have a better FM, but those are all some of the best at their respective BRs.

You can have your own opinion ofc.

However with me flying the Harrier the only chance any of those planes have is to stay fast and run away lol.

Gaijin uses thrust (plus I think some unknown modifiers) as the figure used for the IR signature on aircraft. This is actually kinda clever way to avoid having individually model exhaust temps for every aircraft as you can get double duty out of the thrust curves and it even models the IR signature “reducing” when you throttle down. In 99% of case, I think it works actually quite well, or at least… well enough.

The problem.

Harrier’s have a lot of thrust and gain more thrust at lower air speed. If you are down to around 400kts which is pretty typical for the harrier to be at or around. You are very very hot. To the point of it being nearly impossible to flare most missiles.

To date, there has been no solution because the proper solution would be to model said exhaust temps (directional exhausts would be very good too) but that is a massive undertaking. But the F-117 has added an option. It has code that modifies the IR signature of the aircraft and applies a (iirc) 0.5x multiplier to the IR signature. This same code could be the Harrier’s salvation in these regards as a short(ish) term solution.

The most permanent solution is the temporary one. At times, we should be careful what we wish for. Might fix it now, but could set it up for disaster down the line as it is “good enough”.

If I can flare missiles consistently its good enough for me lol.

Also how do they expect me to use this gunsight

You look at enemy. You shoot at enemy. You kill enemy.

It’s a complete joke how Gaijin put in the effort to give the SHars a proper HUD and somewhat accurate FM but ignore them immediately afterwards

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They just changes a bunch of other huds this latest patch in the datamine

I still got him lol just took way more effort than it had too.

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Makes it even worse

It does the Harrier absolutely slaps now. In SIM it is a killer 15 kills yesterday.

I assume you have a full Hotas and VR/TrackIR with a good PC

Just Hotas controller and a Webcam tracker.

I play on a laptop, a fairly nice one though all the same lol.

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