BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Lmao is what it is

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‘It’ currently can only replace Sea Harrier. But not Typhoon or Tornado :(

Yup the whole thing has been quite the debacle, yet another reason to stick out Tempest/GCAP.

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Technically the ole shar can still do things the F-35 can not. (Like carry anti ship missiles)

Indeed but does virtually everything else worse it’s an upgrade in that respect there’s no denying it. But yeah currently there’s no Anti-ship solution, which ironically is the whole reason Carriers became so dominant and replaced battleships, was because aircraft could kill them easier and faster.

Submarines do exist but I imagine its easier to use an ASHM than one of our only 7 SSN’s (of which only 1 is currently in deployable condition because we let the company who makes the steel cables that pull the subs out of the water for maintenance go bankrupt :) )

Shame it won’t be carrier capable though so we can field our own naval aircraft. I’m hoping perhaps there may be some consideration given to converting the smaller loyal wingman to accompany Tempest into some sort of CATOBAR aircraft. That of course assumes the loyal wingman wouldn’t be some sort of low-cost, subsonic waste of money that’s not even stealthy.

Also in the history of war not one battle has been won where you didn’t have air superiority.

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Use VTOL for another. The Yak 41 can even VTOL at 300km/h but Fat Amy (I call the B Fat Amy because it is and the others are cool) The F35 also didn’t replace the Shar and Harrier. It just became something that looked like it had the same ability.

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Yes, however the VTOL control laws for the 35 came from the harrier.

So the F35 is bound by laws and the Shar invented VTOL so it is superior.

Ig lol.

I more mean that the data gathered by the VAAC harrier was literally to developers the controls for the 35