BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Yeah, Gaijin loves to bias some selected jets from Northrop
and if Northrop built Harrier

Then ion-thruster from F-5 will heavily helpful for dealing with the IR problem of the harrier XD

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Wouldn’t really change it that much. Would just make the max VTOL weights accurate.

Hopefully they fixed STR too.

So from what i am getting at overhere is that we are getting a nerf to the harrier I s for thrust output?

Wasnt that just increased?

The static installed thrust of the Harrier is too high for all marks.

The thrust at speed is still significantly too low.

Gaijin doesn’t seem to understand that jet engines don’t lose all their thrust when they move forward.

STR is still around 1G less than it should be.
STR of Harrier Gr.3

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Also wing tip sidewinder mounts when?

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Aahhh i see yes you are fully correct

Wait a minute is that a thing XD What ???

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An experimental AV-8B with wing tip sidewinders.

It would be cool for accurately calculated VTOL weights.

I think the biggest nerf on the harriers at the moment atleast the GR II ones is the fact they are missing 2 missile pilons

4 missiles is just not enough for 12.7

No not for Air RB but for cas its plenty.

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Fully agreed on the Cas

But the GR7 is facing Pantsirs and its struggling against that too

Best option is to have a GR9A with 6 missile pilons and Brimstones

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Gr.7 had them too.
That’s a 65% LERX harrier so its older
Screenshot 2025-03-26 104429

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Aaahhh what a beautiful GR7

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Agreed

How many years has the report of 6x sidwinders been up ? And they still dont do anything about it ?

I dont whant to ping Gunjob

I feel bad I have pinged gunjob so many times to try and get the Harriers fixed lol.
Even the Shar should out bit F-16s and F-18s in close quarters fights.

Watch from 8:25 to 11:30

Flying the Sea Harrier | Jon Parker (In-Person Part 2)

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Ha imagine that , well in Sim i fought typhoons and rafales and whatever in 14.0 with the GR7 and mostly win because of a good plane good VTOL stability and good pilot skils

And if they whant to break the fight i lunch a AIM 9 at there ass XD

The same kind of happens with the FA2 its just that the FA2 is lot harder to handle

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Yes and that’s with the Harrier 2 being locked behind a fake 24 degrees max AOA when in reality IRL sources say it can do 45+ even at .5 Mach.

Even Typhoon pilots IRL knew not to turn with a Harrier and they used extension type flying to avoid prolonged turning fights as they would lose.

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