BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Is there a specific reason why we dont have this harrier in the game yet or is there also a reason why the GR7 and GR9A or the T10 cant get 6 sidewinders ?

Or the AOA beeing atleast from what i have heard 25 degrees not 18 .

Its been i think 2 years since the GR7 was added right ??

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Report is up for the 6 Sidewinder loadouts but as with all weapon additions its up to the devs on the if/when.

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Its probably for balance but the plane in ARB is not doing too well on its BR but in Sim its doing excellent i evem took it on 14.0 and hamered people but still needs the weapons upgrades with 6X aims and gr9a shoueld have been added since the AV8 B plus just without the ASRAAMs for now

Its just sad at this piont

Unless they are keeping the GR9A away from us for now till we get ASRAAMs in the game since it would be a good platform to test it in and not break the game…
I theory wouldnt break the game if only added for the GR9A … IF…

Only Paveway IV, and Enhanced Paveway II+III in reality.
Technically GR.7As also had EPW, but it was kind of part of the JUMP upgrades to GR.9.
Brimstone (the MMW-only one) was trialled and had emergency clearance. Harrier retired before Dual Mode Brimstone was in service. ASRAAM was planned, but cancelled quite early on because of the missile’s delayed entry in to service, and AIM-9L was considered sufficient for Harrier. Storm Shadow was planned but Harrier retired before it happened.

Still the same one AFAIK. It’s main use was navigation, so hardly needed to be high-resolution. The nose FLIR was pretty much surplus to requirement with a targeting pod being carried.

ALQ-126 was for American AV-8B. Ours never used podded ECM since Zeus has transmitter modules for jamming that the American ones do not.

Again, still Zeus.
British RWRs have been programmable and upgradable since the 80s, so there’s just a progressive update of threat libraries, and LRUs if they need hardware replacements.

GR.9 was going to benefit from more situational information provided by the TIEC datalink, with other aircraft and ground radars adding to the “sensor fusion” to improve the air picture. TIEC integration was still ongoing when the Harrier was retired.
Positional accuracy of locating threats benefitted from the addition of GPS.

Ed for clarity:-

A lot of what GR.9 was about, was simply standardising the Harrier fleet. Because by the mid-2000s the GR.7s were a total mixed bag with some planes having Mk.107 engines and others Mk.105s, some could carry TIALD and others couldn’t, some had a GPS and secure comms and some didn’t (which meant some could operate from carriers and some couldn’t), some could carry Mavericks and some couldn’t, and now some were getting Mil-Std-1760 compliant stores management for EPWs.
The issue of “fleets within fleets” needed addressing if Harrier was really going to operate in the Joint Force concept from land and at sea, and be able to move aircraft between squadrons at home and abroad.

The GR.9s brought them to a standard where they could do all those things, and were all the same in terms of avionics. The only real persisting difference was engines on the 9 vs 9A - which was a cop out because originally they were all meant to get Mk.107s and there would be no GR.9A.
Some of the more boring improvements were a new Successor IFF system (SIFF), a very advanced terrain-referencing system that provided capabilities for ground proximity warning, navigation and weapon delivery, and the ability to use the Rangeless Airborne Instrumentation Debriefing System (a digital ACMI pod - RAIDS is the all-white one that everybody confuses for ASRAAM in photos) for training.

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What is the GR.3A? I can’t find any info on it

I am just as confused lol. maybe he meant Gr.7A

Probably meaning Jaguar GR3A

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ahh ok I was looking at the Harrier Gr.3A

Yeah, sorry the Jaaaaaaag

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I feel like we are going too see the GR9A in 2 years from now 😪😪

Would it really even play all that different from a Gr.7 without ASRAAM

In Sim with HMD new engine, Jammers, 6X missile and spectral flairs it would

Jammers are not in game

I don’t think spectral flares are either.

And I’m pretty sure Gr.7 can take 6 missiles as well.

HMD would be beautiful and the Gr.7A also had the Mk.107

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Yup i and that is why i would love to see a folder of a GR7A and GR9A

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So again why isnt it here i have been waiting for one of these and we got a f T10 wich is lively and all but its behind a pay wall ffs and its been 2 years Gijin 2 Years, and other nations got there best harriers already but the nation that made it originaly and is famous for them still doesnt have them for no reason

So i will ask my self again why wasn’t it added back when the AV8 B plus came to the US we are not asking for a 5th gen jet that will be overpowered or anything

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No I completely understand I really want the Indian FRS.51 for a more mid level radar slinging shar as the FA.2 is a little painful at 13.0 lol.

The Indians where also a bit more clever and used a lighter radar and a significantly more practical missile configuration.

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Exactly, why do we have a ton of f F5 everywhere and not some more harriers in the UK tree

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No idea.

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The funy thingbis that most of them are copy paste with diferent skins

All the F5s overperform a lot as well

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