B-57=/=B-66B.
it starts in ground just like Yak-28B, Su-7 or F-104C does.
Yeah this is a problem. Airspawn bombers render tier 6 bombers useless. But giving tier 6 bombers air spawn would in turn make certain planes dominant in taking bases. I think there’s few tier 6 planes classified as a bomber, so no one else (stock grind fighters, strikere) will have bases, really.
The chronic bombing player addresses a bomber.
B-66B is faster than most if not all fighters of its own BR at the end of the day.
F-100D, and other hard-counters to B-66B, etc should be moved up with decompression instead of making a bomber invincible.
@ChorizoBlanco
F-100D is 9.3, not 8.3.
There is no fighter below 9.3 that can reliably intercept B-66B.
F-86K comes closest if the B-66 is at higher altitudes.
Yeah, the earliest good missile on a mach 0.9+ afterburning platform is 9.3 with F-100D. After that it’s 9.7 with a number of aircraft.
9.0 exclusively has AIM-9Bs, OR Red Tops on slower aircraft.
9.3 should be 9Es on chronically subsonic platforms, and 9Bs on marginally supersonic platforms [Mig-19PT, and the French F-100 as examples], and supersonic general aircraft such as Yak-28 and Su-7.
9.7 should introduce 9Es.
10.0 should be the more advanced stuff such as T-2, Harrier, etc.
Those changes would make all 9.0 aircraft currently suffering stronger and fair.
B-66B is struggling just as much as F-86F-2 is.
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mig 17 intercepts it just fine btw and its 8.7 a lower br
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The Mig-17 is significantly slower. The only jets that have intercepted me are an F-86K, because it was piloted by a more skilled pilot and had more mods than my aircraft, and supersonics.
Everything else was too slow.
1- Yes, B-66B might be faster than the majority of subsonic fighters in 9.0BR or lower
2- No, I think I explained why Decompression can’t be a solution, and it will not make the bomber invincible.
Sir, did you completely forget that War Thunder’s matchmaking is ±1.0BR?
This might be an ideal solution. But I think I explained why it is ‘ideal’ earlier.
A- it can’t solve the problem that B-66B goes slower than B-57 in ARB.
B- Even with decompression, B-66B will face supersonic interceptors
C- Decompression will take forever to give effect to B-66B
it can hit your speed before you do its one of the fastest planes of its br and it does have a mach wing limit under supersonic speed so it dives way faster than you AND out climbs you dive speeds matter far more than top straightline speed at sea level
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You are correct and I agree. However, I don’t see the harm for the B-66 getting an airspawn so it remains somewhat not awful at destroying bases. It’s an issue when 8.0/8.3 bombers can beat a 9.0 bomber to a base. It wouldn’t be gamebreaking to move down to 8.3 either because it can’t do anything to change the course of a match, but I’d rather it get an airspawn than be at 8.3 without one.
Mig-17 is the same speed as B-66:
And Mig-17 doesn’t have missiles needed for being the same speed, so it can’t actually frag a B-66B being played as well as the Mig-17.
3000 meters isn’t sea level either…
I will ignore the bait from another post claiming B-57 is faster than the Mig-17, F-86K, and B-66B.
Giving the plane air spawn would ruin bombing bases for other planes, which is just swapping out one problem for others; making one plane significantly better at the expense of many others. In terms of tradeoff, it is better to keep the bomber where it is.
yeah and he will catch you especially if he dives on you cause any faster than that your wings will break
its fine if it gets a airspawn they should just make bases respawn faster
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Interesting. How does their acceleration compare? Also, the B-66 is forced to take on a very heavy load out further decreasing its performance.
mig 17 for having no after burner it has very good thrust only plane that matches it in performance is the british hawker
We know Gaijin won’t do this, even though it would be a great idea. So my direction is working with Gaijin restrictions.
it deserves a higher spawn than most other planes in a uptier lower vehicles should have lesser chance of getting the base
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Don’t some other variants in Germany and Italy, sitting at the same BR, have afterburner?
i think the br change was recent so im not 100% certain as long as i remebered they where 9.0 and then i see some mig 17 and it says 8.7
you dont know anything about energy aswell btw he has A infinetly higher TWR than you he can simiply climb above you and dive on you
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Okay, Alvis, keep living with your cleanroom data, which can prove nothing and contribute nothing about the current problem of B-66B.
Even if we consider that your cleanroom data is right for arguing’s sake.
it is nearly off-topic as long as bigger problems are not being solved.
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