I have seen people complain about the B-66B about how it is the saddest vehicle in game, this video being one of the examples.
The thing is, while ‘sad’ the B-66B is hardly unique. Many bombers does not come with frontal weaponry. There are no widespread complaints about the likes of B-57A, F-117, Ar 234, just to name a few.
Putting the plane lower would make it overpowered if the radar gun was implemented properly. Such an example was observed in the “good old days” of the “death star” G8N.
Finally, bombers are nortorious for being difficult to balance. If B-66 was given an airspawn (let’s say dropped to tier 5), people would complain about it being too fast and taking bases from older bombers.
Edit: I think B-66B should have improved rear guns and the option to carry a lighter load to improve its performance
It’s missile fodder and missiles are spammed since BR 8.3, and it can’t do anything about headons. Thing is a faster IL-28 and only noobs stay on their 6 enough to get killed by them. This should be 8.7 at the bare minimum if not lower just like all subsonic 9.0 bombers.
It is expected that any bomber at 8.0 loses bases to higher BRed bombers, what is not to be expected is that supersonic fighters at 9.0 and 9.3 BR are getting to bases before any dedicated bomber lol.
Yes. Many bombers come without frontal weaponry controlled by the pilot.
They usually have a frontal gunner instead.
Because
0- With an intended exaggeration, nearly nobody cares about bombers in this game because Gaijin killed them.
1- F-117A ← DEAD. Nobody plays it in ARB unless
-someone newly unlocked it to use it on GRB, and needs to grind modifications
-someone enjoys sniping enemy in their airfield with GBU bombs.
2- Canberra B Mk.2 (Or B-57A)
-It has AIR SPAWN, unlike B-66B does.
-everybody plays it as an easy techtree grinder because it almost always can take base unless the enemy team is filled with SARH interceptors such as Vautour IIN or F3H.
-Canberra B Mk.2 is infinitely better than Tu-4 in 0.3BR lower for that purpose, even without defensive weaponry.
3- Ar 234
-refer to stage 2.
-Back in day when i flew with it, Ar 234’s problem is different. it can’t frag the base without assistance from allies. it’s payload is too small.
1- As long as B-66B’s radar gunner is not implemented, your take is just one another check which can’t be cashed.
2- situation of G8N and B-66B is different.
-G8N has air spawn unlike B-66B does.
-You brought G8N to defend the lethality of the tail gunner, but you excluded Tu-4(Soviet B-29 armed with 23mm NR-23), which has similar good defensive weaponry with air spawn, look at Tu-4. It is a perfect counterclaim to your nonsense.
3- A tail gun supported by radar can’t protect you from supersonic interceptors. Either guns or AIM-9B/E.
Don’t ever discuss radar rear gun now.
A. Currently, we don’t have it.
B. It isn’t CIWS
C. If it makes OP, we can send B-66B back higher.
*rank 5.
There is a principle that exists. KISS principle.
Keep it simple, stupid.
Do you think that older bombers like Canberra or IL-28 in lower BR take base from B-66B forevermore is fine?
Technically, B-66B is a superior bomber. has a better engine, so has a higher BR and rank.
but acts inferior, because of the system.
Quite strange. right?
Talking off-topic, honestly most of your threads is just ragebait. The takes aren’t stupid because it’s your opinion on the matter. Talking about the topic, honestly the B-66B was a fairly expected vehicle to be added and obviously it didn’t pleased most of said people, just another indicator that bombers don’t have their spot in higher battle rating, reason why Il-28 and such had their battle rating lower, in ground battles, but still.
Joke take: Because F-104C needs to be biased forever
to get the privilege of
-makes every subsonic opponent annoyed by the fastest fuselage with high acceleration in BR Radius.
-and steals bases from bombers by precious napalm too.
Quite strange that both B-66B and F-104C are the same American jets, but only F-104C were taken as biased for a long time.
Disclaimer: No, I don’t want to derail this topic with another F-104 problems.
The B-57/Canberras dont get complained about because they are actually kinda decent with both airspawn and surprisingly good handling whilst also being at a notably lower BR. They also both have variants with gunpods
Gets complained about all the time, it is essentially useless in ARB which is why no plays it.
I cannot comment on much, but is in the same boat as the B-57/Canberra, air spawn and a lower BR.
The better aircraft to compare it to would be the Buc S1/S2, Vautour and Yak-28. All of which get complained about.
Now, like most ground attackers, the fault isnt entirely on the B-66B. All ground attackers suck at the moment, especially those at and around that BR AND 7.0-10.0 is a compressed mess. That being said, just like the Buc S1, Vautour, and maybe even the Yak-28, it really should have air spawn
Yeah this is a problem. Airspawn bombers render tier 6 bombers useless. But giving tier 6 bombers air spawn would in turn make certain planes dominant in taking bases. I think there’s few tier 6 planes classified as a bomber, so no one else (stock grind fighters, strikere) will have bases, really.
B-66B is faster than most if not all fighters of its own BR at the end of the day.
F-100D, and other hard-counters to B-66B, etc should be moved up with decompression instead of making a bomber invincible.
@ChorizoBlanco
F-100D is 9.3, not 8.3.
There is no fighter below 9.3 that can reliably intercept B-66B.
F-86K comes closest if the B-66 is at higher altitudes.
Yeah, the earliest good missile on a mach 0.9+ afterburning platform is 9.3 with F-100D. After that it’s 9.7 with a number of aircraft.
9.0 exclusively has AIM-9Bs, OR Red Tops on slower aircraft.
9.3 should be 9Es on chronically subsonic platforms, and 9Bs on marginally supersonic platforms [Mig-19PT, and the French F-100 as examples], and supersonic general aircraft such as Yak-28 and Su-7.
9.7 should introduce 9Es.
10.0 should be the more advanced stuff such as T-2, Harrier, etc.
Those changes would make all 9.0 aircraft currently suffering stronger and fair.
B-66B is struggling just as much as F-86F-2 is.
The Mig-17 is significantly slower. The only jets that have intercepted me are an F-86K, because it was piloted by a more skilled pilot and had more mods than my aircraft, and supersonics.
Everything else was too slow.
1- Yes, B-66B might be faster than the majority of subsonic fighters in 9.0BR or lower
2- No, I think I explained why Decompression can’t be a solution, and it will not make the bomber invincible.
Sir, did you completely forget that War Thunder’s matchmaking is ±1.0BR?
This might be an ideal solution. But I think I explained why it is ‘ideal’ earlier.
A- it can’t solve the problem that B-66B goes slower than B-57 in ARB.
B- Even with decompression, B-66B will face supersonic interceptors
C- Decompression will take forever to give effect to B-66B
it can hit your speed before you do its one of the fastest planes of its br and it does have a mach wing limit under supersonic speed so it dives way faster than you AND out climbs you dive speeds matter far more than top straightline speed at sea level
You are correct and I agree. However, I don’t see the harm for the B-66 getting an airspawn so it remains somewhat not awful at destroying bases. It’s an issue when 8.0/8.3 bombers can beat a 9.0 bomber to a base. It wouldn’t be gamebreaking to move down to 8.3 either because it can’t do anything to change the course of a match, but I’d rather it get an airspawn than be at 8.3 without one.
Giving the plane air spawn would ruin bombing bases for other planes, which is just swapping out one problem for others; making one plane significantly better at the expense of many others. In terms of tradeoff, it is better to keep the bomber where it is.
