AWC Wiesel 1 ATM (HOT + RMK-30)

[Armen_Lozone]

@foxmeup

9.7 wiesel tow is already busted

Balanced*

@foxmeup

30mm apfsds canon shredding anything mbt from the side and even most lighter vehicles from the front

less penetration than Pumas autocannon since its a recoilless gun.

[Armen_Lozone]

@Chris4win

pars 3

the only variant it can get is the MR which is beam riding. not IR guided, so @foxmeup’s desire to see it at 11.0 is hardly justified

[Armen_Lozone]

@GHOST_KING5710

this is the mag btw

speaking of which, this is highly strange for a magazine (clip) to be mounted with a backwards curve. usually the size which has the tip of the round is the side which is on the inside of the curve…

[Rambolf]

Cv9040 bill

[Ghost-King]

It’s strange but i believe it’s just the mag mounting is just tilted bc in here the same mag but you can see it’s straight

[Chris4win]

@Armen_Lozone

the only variant it can get is the MR which is beam riding. not IR guided, so @foxmeup’s desire to see it at 11.0 is hardly justified

Then it shouldnt be higher than 10.0. ATGMs are already a pain at 9.X when tanks with lrf, thermals, apfsds and stabilizer can instantly kill you when they see the atgm which takes multiple seconds to reach the target

[Chris4win]

@Rambolf

Cv9040 bill

Fair I thought the M3A3 Bradley was the highest at 10.0.

[Chris4win]

@GHOST_KING5710

Is that the same as the wiesel rmk30 but just without the optics?

Having a full wiesel lineup would be so fun. Ozelot, Wiesel rmk30, two of the Wiesel ATM and Wiesel tow. Maybe Wiesel Mells but that probably would be higher.

[Rambolf]

Le funi rmk30 wiesel

[Armen_Lozone]

This is the test bed i think the gun couldn’t be rotated.

[Ghost-King]

list of Wiesels

1. Ofc first in the list the GOAT the real Wiesel
   

   

2. Wiesel 1A4 (20mm RH 202)
   

   

3. Wiesel (RMK-30 testbed gun can’t move)
   
   

4. Wiesel RMK-30
   

5. Wiesel 1A2 (TOW)
   

   

6. Wiesel TOW (but with more armour)
   

7. Wiesel Mells
   

   

8. Wiesel ATM/HOT (3 versions)
   
   

   
   
   

9. Weisl Ozelot
   

   

10. FlaRakPz Wiesel (can use RBs-70, Stinger, Mistral,and Igla)
    

    
    
    
    

[foxmeup]

@GHOST_KING5710

Not in the slightest, it’s highly situational tank that’s impossible to be use in flat maps, if there is no hills or any sort of hulldown position to hide behind your just a free food

that’s skill issue, you can easily hide between your teammates or ennemy corpses. Also it’s so small that most craters are bid enough to hide the thing, add bushes onto it and it’s busted.

@GHOST_KING5710

no stab

3rounbd burst and almost no recoil, no problem

@GHOST_KING5710

can’t fire on the move

doesn’t need to

@GHOST_KING5710

zero armour

first rule: don’t be seen, and it’s perfect for that, second rule, don’t be hit, and it’s very small, it’s perfect for that. 3rd rule don’t be penetrated, and the crewless and inert ammo are perfect for that.

@GHOST_KING5710

the ATM/HOT is the same you just get a 30mm with very limited ammo

first:

@GHOST_KING5710

not only is it compatible with the Trigat/PARS 3 MR ATGM but also the Kornet-E ATGM (both use laser beam guidance)

@GHOST_KING5710

The turret is equipped with a mast-mounted stabilized sensor pod that includes a colour CCD camera, a thermal imaging camera (10 µm), an electro-optical block (1 µm), and a laser rangefinder. The sensor pod allows for increased situational awareness, automatic target tracking, and missile tracking.

@GHOST_KING5710

Armament (configuration 1): 1 x RMK-30 30mm gun + 1 x HOT-2/3 ATGMs (+ 6 in storage) (or PARS 3 MR)
Armament (configuration 2): 1 x RMK-30 30mm gun + 2 x HOT-2/3 ATGMs (+ 6 in storage) (or PARS 3 MR)

7-8 hot 2-3/ beam riding pars makes it an atgm vehicle with a secondary autocanon, not the other way around.

@GHOST_KING5710

This makes it potentially a much more deadly ambush predator since the Kornet has the one feature the other missiles lack. Speed.

that would make it firing on the move.

[Discord_Guy]

I don’t see how this could be broken in any way, and I love it

[foxmeup]

8 kornets possible (or hot/ BM pars) and 3 round burst apdsfs (@ 100-130mm pen) with thermal, autotracking, commander stab (and weapon slaving), recoiless gun, very small and nimble plateform, crewless with inert ammo turret. Nah it’s fine, just even more op than the 2s38…

[PercussionCap]

@GHOST_KING5710

Ofc first in the list the GOAT the real Wiesel

gaijin when???

[UnHolySausage]

peak ratting

[UnHolySausage]

30 mm autocannon limited to 80 rounds at most without any extra reload, less pen and 2 atgm at most idk brother but that aint 12.0 maybe 10.0 to 10.3 but not 12.0, edited cuz calculating it, is a lot less

[Ghost-King]

The ultimate Wiesel = the ultimate rat.
But sadly no stab for guns but not that of a big deal eather way.

[foxmeup]

you forget about the ammo box mechanic that doubles the ammount of ammo available. That means 14/16 atgm available, with 160-200 30mm rounds (it’s cta so it can be stored close to any way you want). That’s not weak by any mean and 12.0 would be very fine. The fact current ifvs are undertiered doesn’t mean the suggestions should be too. It would definitely be extremely strong well employed, even at 12.0 (it has auto tracking so it doubles down as an spaa with atgms). It’s still in essence a very small and nimble rat tank that will have no problem destroying anything it has to face, unlike the house sized ifs we currently have.

[UnHolySausage]

its semi telescoped, for the info i could find it only keeps 80 rounds in the side ammo box and can only keep an extra atgm at most, as for the wiesel 1A2 that one has a modification specifically for the extra atgm’s, info avaliable its mostly calculations of the dimensions of the box using this dimensions to calculate ammo storage