only america and netherlands. UK very notably does not have LDIRCM
I don’t believe much is lost with the VT-4 not being added to Japan, much less as a premium (The Fuji is far, far better), and the Abrams ultimately remains just… average.
However the distinctions here are incredibly arbitrary; Japan shouldn’t receive a vehicle that it does not operate (its subtree does), but… the PRC must because the… Taiwanese subtree… does?
This is incredible mental gymnastics.
While there’s nuance on RL politics, there’s really not in this game; both subtrees of both nations operate both vehicles, and therefore should be added.
I don’t appreciate the Chinese lobbying for an explicitly export-focused MBT, and I don’t appreciate the whining about the M1A2T.
It’s just a tank. Not even a massively good one at it.
exclusively integrated onto American AH-64E
I should just grind Britain at this point. At least they would get alot of things such as rafale through common wealth nations and challengers would remain unless they also decide to export to more countries, Then i’ll lose my mind. Also can any other nation be added to China so that they can also get leopard cause why not?
Uh, beyond Singapore? Probably not.
That wouldn’t be more outlandish than SG as a subtree, that is.
I’m trying to understand here but you say China shouldn’t ever enter into the American tech tree but you’re fine with them adding a USA tank into the tech tree?? Sure it’s a USA tank designed for Taiwan but that still doesn’t change the fact that it’s a American based design, them adding a Abram’s to the Chinese techtree can allow the argument that they should add a Canadian leopard tank into the USA techtree. I should also add that this might kill toptier sim battles even more cause how tf is an American Abram’s meant to tell if the Chinese Abram’s is American or Chinese??
China needs the Abrams
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The audacity to behave like this after saying VT4 should be added to japanese tree. Do you know how bad Chinese ground is?
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Bro what…
decent pen with a good missile good armor and APS with the same good missile and ammo thought a worse reverse reverse gear.
The new SPAA i think is ok, i can see how the CS SA5 can be underwhelming but its not bad.
ZBD04A is really good for its br, along with a lot of chinese light tanks.
The ZTZ99A not only has better armor but better speed as well so the only reason i could see it being “needed” is just greed.
So your main line up of vehicles are very solid some nations suffer way more (cough cough israel and UK) and need a whole lot more than china does.
Why would china get a Singaporean vehicle
how would abram improve your situation anyways?
Bad pen, 3mm less than 3bm60.
And nobody likes to use a missile
Average armor, like a slightly better T72. APS is usually a gimmick. 577mm pen paired with the slowest reload.
Light tanks are not that bad. Especially the vt5, although it has some modelling errors.
Compared to what? Comparing ztz99a and Abrams side by side will tell you that their armor is roughly the same. And ztz99a has the slow reload and bad pen, so Abrams wins. Abrams has more gun depression too.
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And you really do have to compare the worst nations (UK) to china? Just because china isn’t at the bottom doesn’t mean it’s good
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It would get china an actually good tank
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He believes that Singapore should be in China because 70/-80% of them ethnicity wise is Chinese. The funny thing is that Gaijin doesn’t implement subtrees based on ethnicity.
Purely opinion based,
This statement just tells me you have never player the Abrams especially with the MASSIVE turret basket “feature”
By that logic the US would be every were XD
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I mean sure Taiwan can get the M1A2T but Thailand in Japan should receive the VT-4 and any other Chinese export vehicle.
We gotta play it fair.
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The pen for the shell is right there 🤣.
And missiles objectively are less useful than APFSDS, because you’ll lose any fight requiring reaction time
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