Autocannone da 20/65 su FIAT-SPA 38R, risen from the dead.

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Autocannone da 20/65 su FIAT-SPA 38R

History.
With the Spanish Civil War in full swing, the Royal Italian Army began to realize that anti-aircraft means were needed to protect convoys from enemy aerial assaults. Thus began testing an anti-aircraft vehicle and the first vehicle that came out was a Fiat 618 armed with a heavy machine gun, but the vehicle lacked protection for the crew and the firepower was very inadequate. It was decided to test a vehicle armed with the Breda 20/65 Model 1935 Cannon-Machine Gun. The tests gave good results between 1937 and 1938, but at the outbreak of the World War the project was shelved. It was thought to add a shield to the 20 mm cannon but it would have reduced the already limited space on the vehicle too much.
With the start of World War II and with the big problem of air raids on convoys, the Royal Italian Army ordered the Royal Italian Army Arsenal of Naples to add a 20 mm cannon to the Fiat-SPA 38 R trucks and throughout the war they were converted over two hundred, but despite this, very little is still known about the official service of the vehicle. One SPA 38R of unknown origin was also used by the “I Motorized Group” of the Co-Belligerent Italian Army (last pic on the spoiler).

Specifications.

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Dimensions (LWH): 5.783 x 3.5 x 2.6 m
Max weight: 3,6 tons
Crew: 5
Propulsion: FIAT Tipo 18R , petrol, 4-cylinder, 4,053 cm³, 55 hp at 2,000 rpm
Max speed: 51 km/h
Range: 310 km
Armament: 1x Cannone-Mitragliera Breda 20/65 Modello 1935
Armor: none
Weapon traverse: 0°/320°
Ammunition reserve: 384 rounds
Elevation: +80°/-20°

Photos and drawning.

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Sources.

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Autocannone da 20/65 su FIAT-SPA 38R - Tank Encyclopedia
Fiat-SPA 38R - Wikipedia
Calaméo - Sgarlato N., I corazzati di circostanza italiani
http://files.pierogiacomelli.com/files/rombo/il_rombo_107.pdf
Breda 20/65 Mod. 1935 - Wikipedia
Studi del Gen. B.Fulvio Poli by Biblioteca Militare - Issuu

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Always +1 for a funni trucc.

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Sooner or later the Italian TT will be full of milk trucks as much as the Russian one.

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+1 good AA for italy, its needed

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It could be added as a premium vehicle at BR 1.0.

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I hope for not premium but why not.

I think this one should replace the AS 42 at 1.3. AS 42 should be 1.0.

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They are very similar… maybe the AS 42 at 1.3 because it is a little faster.

The AS 42 has a crew of 2, while the 38R a crew of 5, and it can get a 7 mm gunshield. That would be a massive improvement in survivability.

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True, but is still slower than AS42. So, both at 1.3.

It’s a SPAA, so the slightly better mobility doesn’t matter.

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Not to mention having a dedicated loader will help with fire rate.

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Same for the AS 42.

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Fiat-SPA AS42 "Sahariana" - Wikipedia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6O1-sBrTDA

still 2 crew members less, and the driver is much less protected.

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Sadly I know this.