That is a shame, all I can find is a HE round but no specific information on its penetration, explosive mass, etc.
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From memory right now they are around 2-3kg TNT.
Best you’re gonna get are the Swedish STRIX and THOR rounds, as I believe we have discussed before. STRIX due to its HEAT warhead and THOR due to its almost 5kg of TNT. Both of these rounds would be very strange to see on an Australian vehicle, of course, and there may need to be some unhistorical concessions made for the STRIX performance wise.
There’s also a German prototype guided 120mm mortar round called the Bussard/Buzzard, which features a HEAT warhead. Like the STRIX, it’s meant to be fired in an arc and guided down onto a target, however, the HEAT warhead should still function as normal if used in a direct fire role. It also required a laser designation for guidance, so it should perform like any other dumb round if fired without a designation. This round was also modified and entered into the PGMM XM395 program but was not adopted.
It’s also worth noting that Soviet 120mm gun/mortars are supposedly compatible with NATO 120mm mortar rounds. Ukraine allegedly puts American M1101 120mm HE mortar rounds through captured 2S23 Nona-SVKs. This means that there is a chance that NATO gun/mortars could fire Soviet 120mm mortar rounds, which, includes ones with HEAT warheads. Of course, there’s no direct proof of this and it would still be strange to find Soviet ammunition on NATO vehicles.
It’s really up to how much Gaijin wants gun/mortars in the game.
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New SPAA? It seems to mount twin Oerlikon 20mm cannons
FORT GELLIBRAND, WILLIAMSTOWN, VIC. 1943-01-26. A TWIN 20-MM. GUN MOUNTED ON A TRACK BEING FIRED … | Australian War Memorial
Was tested at the same time and location as the 40mm Bofors vehicle we already know
FORT GELLIBRAND, WILLIAMSTOWN, VIC. 1943-01-26. AN AUSTRALIAN-MADE ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN BEING TESTED … | Australian War Memorial
I also found another source for the M113 106mm RCL, in which an ammunition count of 16 is stated
Bonus image(s)
Spoiler
Captured anti-aircraft truck and technical by 1 RAR in Somalia, Operation Solace 1993
Unit History – 2nd / 4th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment Association
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Give it to sweden +1
Awesome find, I will definitely include the 20mm 3-ton, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a Canadian mount, they had twin, triple and quad mounts for them.
Not sure about the truck from Somalia, it’s a neat bit of history but maybe not for the tech tree.
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To be honest, 16 rounds plus presumably 1 in the chamber at the start of battle making for 17 total is pretty decent for a 106mm RCL vehicle. Although some which are designated “SPGs” get the ammo box now.
And maybe the 20mm cannons aren’t Canadian Oerlikons, going by all the pictures for ground and naval mounts here on this webpage, the gunner is behind the guns while on the truck in the Australian photo, the gunner appears to be seated beside the guns?
Edit: They might be Polsten 20mm.
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But they will be under the US sub-tree right :). I mean the Brits will be getting everything then, US weapons, Soviet weapons, German weapons. Kinda need to spread the vehicles around for other nations too. Otherwise, I am all for it.
I never included this in the suggestion, a Vickers Light AA, because even though this is on the AWM website, I’m not sure these were Australian forces or not. Could just be a British photo on the website.
Edit: I decided today I will also include a towed Bofors. We already have trailer physics in the game, and it will give another low BR SPAA. I can see it being lower than the truck mounted Bofors guns since it will lose a lot of anti tank capability with the difficulty of maneuvering the trailer, but it will still retain good if not even better anti air capability. I say better since the driver is in a different vehicle to the gun trailer, which will make it harder to kill in a single strafing run from an aircraft.
This is not the best picture, hopefully I can find a better one.
I almost forgot about adding the 20mm truck and towed Bofors. Of course I remember this when I don’t have time for it. But I just want to leave this here as well, thanks @John_Sneeeeeeeew for pointing this one out to me. Supacat 6x6 from Australian unmanned experiments with a what looks like EOS R400 weapon station, 30mm Bushmaster, Javelin ATGM and APKWS rockets on the back. Remotely operated but maybe a person could still drive it and sit in it, the seats look like they’re still there. I know too little about it to include it in the tree right now though.
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corect me if i am wrong wasn’t there a matilda with a new zeland 3inc gun
A pair of Matilda IIs from C squadron, 2/9 Armoured Regiment engaging a Japanese position. Both have been fitted with spare track links for extra armor. The tank in the foreground is armed with a 3’’ (76.2 mm) howitzer while the tank behind is armed with a 2 pounder. 11th June 1945 Tarakan, Borneo – Source: Australian War Memorial
And a few different aslav varients such as one with 2 TOW launchers on the side and a aslav with a 120mm mortor
The Matilda CS with the 3in gun is already in the suggested tree, as is the TOW launching ASLAV. The mortar armed ASLAV is not however as there is no ammunition for it that would make it viable, certainly nothing Australia would have tested on it.
Ok, cheers
I think the Australian Army used M7 Priests btw, might be a good add to the tree? Perhaps Rank 2, Br 3.3 ?
I had this discussion with someone just a couple weeks ago, I’ve found nothing to suggest we did use the M7.
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+1 I’d love to see more Aussie vehicles!
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The Bob Semple is gonna need it’s own BR lol. Maybe 13.0 since it’s so powerful and dangerous…
I don’t think I saw it here, but there’s a video of the ASLAV with the Delco TOW turret firing.
There’s also a second video (seemingly with the launcher folded down.)
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Apologies mate, only just seen. Saw a few links to some books, but nothing on the internet I can view/find with concrete evidence of the Aussies using the M7B1 :(
There was nothing in the vehicle registry on the AWM website when I read through it either. If any Australian troops used it, it was probably assisting another nation’s forces. Kinda like how we used British Crusaders in Africa.
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