South Africa is IMO the absolute best TT Gaijin have ever implemented though.
Personally I love the unique commonwealth additions particularly as ZA fills so many gaps the UK cannot and offers a completely different playstyle, Cheetah C is just another example of this as at 13.0 if we got any further decompression they’d be quite nice, or even Cheetah E as a Kfir Canard alternative with HMS and more agile missiles.
Only time I want anything thats not unique in this respect from CW is that I do indeed want the Su-30MKI, even if its the MKI late with domestic Indian AESA radar and NATO standard armament.
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I do think the british tree should be totally reworked into being a Commonwealth of nations tree so that it ends the ripping apart of countries into multiple trees and so that people stop claiming that brit mains are claiming everything under the sun
its the best yes, but also been the most problematic because of other nations that should be subtrees, Canada and Australia
Theoretical - five.
Demonstrated - four.
The fifth missile is anecdotal so I wouldn’t expect it.
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I agree, but I must admit that I absolutely hate the Kfir C.10 and because Gaijin added it before the Cheetah C every single Youtuber is gonna say it’s C&P or say it is exactly like the Kfir. People already say that several other South African vehicles are like that (some examples of this are the TTD, every single Mirage variant, Cheetahs, Olifants, ZA 35 and more) and this gets me quite angry but their gullibility and stupidity.
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We are not going this direction again.
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Gaijin has implemented theoretical loadouts / weaponry before and they likely will keep in mind the 5th mount for balance purposes.
I am stating it as it will be a bit of a problem for the future if the Cheetah C is added
Did the Mirage F1CZ get Cat’s Eye before 1985?
just don’t get offended by it simple as
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Yes, you can normally identify them by their grey low visibility camos, they got these camos after being upgraded with Cat’s Eye
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Regarding the Atlas Cheetah, I would really love to suggest and (hopefully) see this camo from the Ecuadorian Atlas Cheetah, and I think the community would enjoy it as well, I’m talking about FAE-1377’s 40th Anniversary camouflage:
Also here is FAE-1377 in the usual service camouflage:
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R-Darter is an export variant of the Derby issued to the SAAF
Not exactly R-Darter is the result of a joint collaboration with Israel which resulted in the two respective missiles. There are both similarities and differences between the two because of this (although probably more of the former).
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It doesn’t really matter, the Cheetah C is literally just a worse Kfir C.10. So in fact nobody will say it’s a C&P C.10 they’ll say it’s a worse C&P C.10 and they’d be right.
How is the Cheetah a worse C.10? the Cheetah only loses to the C.10 in thrust but makes up for it with a lower weight and a slightly worse radar. The Cheetah has better missiles, more missiles and rear MAW. You seem like one of those people that think something like the Cheetah should be added to Israel and India should be its own nation
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How does it make up for having inferior performance with a worse radar? The Kfir should get all aspect MAWS like was teased in the dev blog but not added. And what are these better missiles you’re talking about? C.10 should get Python 5 and I-Derby ER. Even the Cheetah C pilots that trained on Kfirs in Israel preferred it. So you’re wrong on all counts. And for more missiles part, what’s your source other than “trust me bro”.
As for the the second part of your comment, it sounds like insecure deflecting.
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Worse engine, Worse radar (possibly RWR as well), possibly Worse IR missiles, depending on how they compare to the Python 4/5 ingame. It’s just dated and overall worse. The Kfir C.10 modernization is just overall more modern than the Cheetah, that’s why it’s better.
Minor correction, the C.10 Block 60 gets the I-Derby and I-Derby ER, not the standard C.10 with its older radar. Both variants can still use the Python 5 ofc, however I doubt gaijin will give a plane the Python 5 if it has the Derby as its top ARH missile. It would be reasonable to expect only the Kfir C.10 Block 60 to receive that missile, although I’m sure you were referring to it from the start, just didn’t mention the Block 60 bit of information.
I believe it’s already been stated inn this thread a few times now that the R-Darter was mounted and tested for compatibility with the centerline rail, however it wasn’t used in service to any capacity due to technical limitations and concerns, and as such it can’t come to the game with said extra missile. It did happen, but given we have a precedent with technical limitations (ie. the TGP and AGM-65s on the A-10C) I’m almost positive this aircraft will only come to the game with 4 AAMs at most, identical to the Kfirs.
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Standard C.10 uses I-Derby ER as well, as a matter of fact even the C.12 (C.10 with a C.7 radar) uses it. It can be guided via ground based or air based radar datalink (for the C.12). The EL/M-2032 on the regular C.10 is more than capable of guiding it on its own.
I’m aware the second picture is a training missile.
As for the 5th missile on the Cheetah a picture wasn’t provided and the “source” was some dude on a pixel art site.
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