ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-Tree

It’s an AIM-9L (and the launch rail for it) taken from the Hakw 208. It should be able to use AIM-9M as well as that requires no additional changes over the AIM-9L integration.

Personally I hope it gets AIM-9M since there will actually be a use for them next to the R-73E Malaysia operated. But if Gaijin aren’t willing to do that then maybe it could find its place at a lower BR using R-60M and AIM-9L. It would be a shame for something unique like this to be wasted in usual gameplay.

It still appears to be a functional seeker, so with it integrated that implies live missiles could be used as well. I only wonder if it would be integrated with the HMD or not.

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We did it all! We got the ace combat tree!

Can’t wait for Malaysia ground to happen.

Do you think it will be tech tree or GE or even squadron? The skin is giving me GE vibes.

istg please let it be TT, I don’t understand what’s with every 12.7 since F/A-18C (Early) need to be premium plus 13.0 F-2A ADTW is literally right there

also I was typing earlier that since MiG-29N is closely be a thing and 12.7 if without R-73 (and if it does be TT jet), would F-16AJ be finally removed?

Mig-29n is likely gonna be another 12.7 mig 29 with r60ms and r-27er/t

It should at least also get AIM-9L imo.

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FYI Infoglobal’s website is down while i was gathering the info for the bug report, so until they resolve their problems the reports gotta wait

Gaijin has the chance to at least make this thing unique, and also even though Malaysia didn’t use R-77s on it they’re still technically compatible with it as well, the radar it has can make use of it, but we’ll see

Yeah but it’s stuck with spo-15, I’d rather it be at 12.7 with 60ms or 9ls than at 13.3 with spo -15 and r77s with no maws

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So it retains the SPO-15, I see, in the case then I agree, 12.7 with 9Ls and ERs would make it more unique also

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Could you tell me some more about the Mig-29N? Like the service history of it, if it got modernised and modified, and who performed the modifications etc

unfortunately MiG-29N is quite a mystery honestly out of other jets in RMAF fleet, there is mentions of minor upgrades in late 1990-early 2000 but that itself traced to key.aero website forum. It was also proposed for later upgrade similar to MiG-29SMT and MiG-29UPG upgrade called MiG-29NM but it was too late and ended up retired in 2017.

I assume the 2000’s minor modification were closely to Luftwaffe’s MiG-29G mayhaps, as in network compatibility with NATO/Western architecture.
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regarding the ones in charge for MiG-29 maintenance and stuff it was from a firm called ATSC, also responsible on maintaining Su-30MKM as well


a little dig into the company’s old website

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I got this book about Infoglobal, while I haven’t read it yet, pretty sure there’s a couple things about Hawk 209 avionics in it, lmk if you need anything

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Finding information on it is very difficult since it’s usually only short articles, websites or short mentions in books that need to be pieced together. Sometimes they also seem to misinterpret older articles.

The MiG-29 was chosen by Malaysia from a lineup that would’ve had the Mirage 2000-5, F-16 (unknown variant, likely A) and F/A-18 (that they also ordered 8 D models from). In 1994 they ordered 16 MiG-29SD (9.12SD) and 2 MiG-29UB (9.51) alongside their armament of R-73E and R-27R missiles. These were delivered in 1995.

The MiG-29SD was itself a downgraded export variant of the MiG-29S (9.12S), featuring downgraded N019ME version of the N019M radar, capability to mount three drop tanks (two underwing, one on the fuselage) as well as options for westernized avionics on customer demand.

The MiG-29N was the specific MiG-29UB variant for Malaysia. This specifically was old MiG-29 aircraft manufactured between 1988-1990, which were refurbished and upgraded to the desired MiG-29SD standard. For Malaysia this included the SD’s N019ME radar, additional fuel tanks (possibly meaning the drop tanks?) and new avionics systems including Cossor IFF, Collins radio, ARN-138 TACAN, a new English voice-warning system, ILS, GPS, and an English cockpit using Imperial units.
Midair refuelling capability was also included in the initial order, but added later, after deliveries were already complete. The retractable probe was developed for the Malaysian order, but then offered for further export customers as well. The probe is fully removable from the airframe.
Additionally there was mentions of upgrading the existing N019ME radars to N019M during the same timeframe (1997-1999), including R-77 and Kh-27 integration, however it’s likely this was never done and neither of these weapons was ever found on Malaysian MiG-29s.

The MiG-29N mounting Sidewinders is something I haven’t seen any additional information about outside of Malaysian forum mentions of AIM-9 on the MiG-29N from 2008 (maybe Malaysians will have an easier time finding more here), so I mostly just have what can be seen directly on the image.
By this image it can be seen that the launch rail used is the same as on the Hawk 208, while the missile itself is a captive AIM-9L with a live seeker. Judging by the grey-green camo on the aircraft it was taken before 2005, likely in the early 2000s.

Sidewinder Image

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In 2015 an upgrade to the MiG-29N was proposed, the MiG-29NM. This would have included increased internal fuel capacity, Zhuk-ME radar, integration of Su-30MKMs air to air and air to ground weapons including the R-77, updated avionics and a new, modernized cockpit. This upgrade never went past the proposal.

Sources (Incomplete, this is just everything I looked through now to write this)

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Posts about the aircraft

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It’s specifically a LAU-7, which is a very flexible sidewinder rail used by the Hawk 108, Hawk 208, and F-18D.

LAU-7 mounting diagram for under-wing Hawk pylons (and most British ERU stations)

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correct, MiG-29N does have ability to slung both centerline and inner wing drop tanks

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