While not confirmed yet, Indonesian Su-35SE may be back on table (irl). 👀
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what? how many more fighters can they get??? aren’t they getting both the South Korean one and the KAAN?
Acquisition of KAAN is not confirmed as far as I know, neither for Su-35SE (even though there are indications atm) and J-10B / CE, on KF-21 however they are direct partners.
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i feel sorry about their logistic department
To be fair Su-35SE and AL-31F equipped J-10s wouldn’t be too bad, as they are already used to these engines and overall aircraft logistic thru remaining Su-27SK and Su-30MK2 fleet, but there is no doubt they will replace the remaining non upgraded Flankers and perhaps even F-16s until 2030s - just like Hawks are being replaced with Rafale at the moment.
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yea but an Airforce with so many different planes ? were to they get parts for their F-16? isnt america put embargo to all nations that are buying russian stuff?
As they were denied from buying F-35s and also basically abandoned the F-15EX (F-15IDN) last year, I personally assume they want cut their dependence on American supplies.
They are not alone with it either; Malaysia eyes Su-57E; Vietnam is allegedly also procuring the Su-35; Philippine is coming closer with Japan and so on…
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What can I say about the current Indonesian procurement trend is expect the unexpected. The Minister of Defense hasn’t released a defence white paper for a decade, so any plans that they have isn’t open to the public.
AFAIK Indonesia wanted ITAR-free KAAN, while KAAN with Turkish TF35000 engines is projected to be finalized around 2032. The selection of KAAN is also connected to politics, and the current administration ended in 2029. So, depending on who got elected in 2029, Indonesia might buy or cancel the KAAN.
Historically, Indonesia has purchased aircraft from both the West and East, and also got to experienced being embargoed by both sides at different times. That’s why sourcing arms from different supplier is part of the current procurement policy.
Venezuela is able to maintain their old F-16A/B, though at a reduced number, right until the recent event at the start of this year despite being cut off from American supply for 20 years. If there’s a will there’s a way.
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FYI with advanced computer milling machine you can also make illegal aircraft parts. These machines are kind of expensive but if it keeps your planes flying then they are worth the price so that is one way. Milling machines are a big problem now a days though they can make aircraft parts the issue is in rifles as you can basically make a .50cal in a basement from any forged truck drive shaft. Its vary difficult to stop because China is pumping out affordable milling machine (few thousand + basic computer need no skill) to the point there like 3D printer and forged truck drive shaft is not a controlled substance as there in every scrap yard.
Concerning aircraft advanced jet turbine blades cant be made on milling machines as there forged but you can make mostly anything else.
latest update says KAI partnership with PTDI has ended, PTDI will no longer receive tech transfer. Although, TNI-AU will still procure several KF-21, albeit in smaller numbers.
Wasn’t it only that local production won’t be done in Indonesia?
I find it hard to believe Indonesia would pay 7% of the development without getting any benefits, so I think prototype and tech transfer would still be done, and there would still be an IF-21 variant, just built in Korea.
well we still dont know the exact arrangements, so its mostly guess work at this point, but whats certain is that there will be no full production line of vehicles being churned out, but we could still make some components of the aircrafts (for instance PTDI’s weapon pylons have already been sent over there for a while)
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I was re-reading this for reference and something jumped out at me. On the Thai F-86L:
AIM-9P was used on it?
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The Thai F-86L in the Thai subtree suggestion mentioned only AIM-9B’s so it’s likely an error on OP’s part.
I’m not saying it’s impossible for Sabre dogs to mount AIM-9P’s. I’m just stating that unless we have any photographic and/or written evidence to support this claim, Thai F-86L’s were probably never armed with them since they only operated them in the 1960’s (1961-1974) and the AIM-9P’s was only used from1978 at the earliest when the Sabre Dogs are long out of Thai service
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It’s intentional, I’ll go look for the picture again
Can’t find it now, only a display with mock 9Ps. I’ll look again later, but until then assume it’s a mistake from the display.
I’ll fix it if I can’t find the proof again.
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It would be a little crazy, and also really funny to have a rocket Sabre Dog with 9Ps.
This was supposed to handout through cancelled War Diaries if I recalled correctly.
There is also another variant with bull decal in one of earlier Thunder League promotional banner, unfortunately I cannot find it anywhere now.
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Well we lucked out then because now there is hope we get it in the tree! Then again Gaijin has moved stuff around there is no rule they cant.
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If we had this and if it was actually capable of carrying 9Ps it would be a pretty cool and unique event jet
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LESSGO
2 Hawk 208 decals, 1 CAC Sabre decal
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