this was the initial plan. But PT2 got both upgrades before pt3, therefore they are indetical currenlty.
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No, the PT2 gets both hull and turret upgrades.
That was the initial plan, but due to how quick they were to converting the 3 AMV prototypes they had decided to also further install the PT1 upgrades to the PT2 too earlier than planned. By now all AMV prototypes will be the exact same with no differences.
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If thats the case i wonder if Gaijin will implament these next two vehicles according to their initial plan for sake of keeping them functionally distinct, while also filling up rank 8. Though if thats not their plan then hopefully they dont use my suggestion as a convenient excuse for a top teir premium.
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I’m in favour of adding this vehicle, only if they increase armour to all Ariete, we all know Ariete has composite armour it was even specified by the developer, although he didn’t say the thickness because it’s a military secret through calculations on the weight of the tank we can deduce that it is very similar to a Challenger 2.
The community is tired of seeing a tank that weighs 60 tons of air, this in my opinion is above all a huge joke on the part of the developers, it weighs more than a Leopard 2A4 but has less armour something doesn’t add up in my opinion.
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I would also like to increase the kenetic protection of the NERA composite, because in its current state, the strongest point of Arietes armor is weaker than the Type 10s armor… a 40-48 ton tank designed specifically to be light weight.
Or at the very least improve the kenetic protection of the WAR kit, as i belive someone checked the code and found its kenetic protection is equivilent to Kontakt-1 ERA. Which is doubly funny considering they recently increased the WAR kits weight without increasing protection
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Like we know, they dont care about ariete armor and that’s is sad, by the way the centauro is more looks like a top tier of italian ground vehicles.
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with real armor we need it
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Edited the suggestion by adding more photos as well as a PDF for the specifications
You still havent removed the photos of the PT2, in fact you added another PT2 photo.
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Are you talking about the top down image, and the last image? The only visual indicator I know of between the PT2, and 3 is a different cover for the gunners sight.
…unless they later gave the PT2 the same cover that is
The PT2 is the only one with we have seen with that type of armour config, of course the PT3 can also mount it but its important to make the distinction between the prototypes to avoid confusion. For now the only confirmed photos of the PT3 are the ones without the armour kit installed but has the new optics and other changes to the AMV.
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So is the last few images i added, the ones without the armor kits, along with the top down image the PT3 then?
The reason i had posted the images i did is most of them came from the IVECO-OTO-Melara website page ragarding the C2, and assumed the PT3 being C2 at least until production for the upgrade starts, and so i used the images the website provided.
Back when i was first making this post the only thing i could distinguish between certain images of the C2 prototypes would be the gunners sight
I assumed the PT2 lacked the flaps that protect the lences, like you see in that image above
While the PT3 did possess them like you see in this image.
Though now that i think of it, those covers dont look dificult to install, so im not suprised they gave it to the PT2
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This top tier can make Italy almost competitive! +1
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It’s funny how the C2 was a project that was shelved and then made a comeback in a different form here. The C2/PT3 looks good, looking forward to seeing it.
On a side note, I hope they decide to add a composite armor layer over the LFP and addon turret cheeks and slat armor around the engine in final form. I know it’s not likely considering how the WAR and PSO kits are but one can dream.
+1
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Well the Italians have also lately been studdying Israeli hard kill APS, and German soft kill APS, and have been in talks about potentially integrating one of those systems into their military, so hopefully if they do the production model C2 can get it
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Now that would be something. A C2 Ariete (AMV PT3) with Israeli Trophy or Iron Fist-Light Decoupled (IF-LD), or German ADS/StrikeShield would be sick! They could even look at the French Thales Diamant. When it’s paired with the ‘Leopard 2A8IT’, IMBT, or whatever the Italian Army decides on, it will make a solid lineup.
Any news on a Remote Weapon Station for the Commander? I know the vehicle just received a 12.7mm machine gun and all. A Hitrole Light RWS like on the Centauro II MGS, would be icing on the cake.
Well the AMVs are just pre production prototypes, its very likely theyll have a few changes and additions to the final model. Personally id be suprised if they dont give it the Hitrole since its something many other AFVs in their military, including their Centauro II have
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Yeah I’m tracking. Just waiting to see how far they take the upgrades.