Benelux makes no sense for France and yet, here we are.
This isn’t about making sense, but filling holes in the TTs.
Anyone is free to have an opinion, your comments prove it.
Speaking of whether Germany should receive an Argentine F-16, I wonder which tech tree the Pulqui II will be added to?
But it I agree that Britain could get their own vehicles instead of subtree but that’s up to gaijin to decide.
Also i am not saying this alone. I have already asked about this in another thread and most of them have said something similar to what i said. If you want I can quote them over here
As for Argentinian F-16, where would you even place it then, in which tree? I genuinely see no other tree for Argentinian F-16. If you give name me another tree where it could be placed at with a good reason, i would stop arguing with you.
As for trialed vehicles, they should never be adding at all. I am and always will be against them.
Ok? That’s upto gaijin to decide. Even India does not make any sense as a British subtree
I already said that.
It’s not an opinion lol. the only help Germany has given has been in the very very recent history of 2025 and 2026 helping them acquire A a new heavy lift helicopter and B try to arm the F16s with IRIS T missiles.
it’s not an opinion lol.
Then they likely will not add it mate.
They cannot keep just giving everything to germany because folks claim it needs it.
Why must it be placed in any tree lol? they added the TAMS because germany was heavily involved with them. Why would they randomly select an F16 from argintina which Germany has had literally nothing to do with.
IF anything it would go to America or if they create a tree for it south american stuff.
likely not happening as we’ve got various south american nations equipment in different trees.
Then they would need to remove quite a few vehicles from every tree lol.
literally no one has said it does apart from gaijin, nor does south africa, what would of made total sense is canada or australia as a subtree.
Fair point
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Then I suppose you have another suggestion?
Swiss trialed the F16 lol C/D so could slam that in
If this is the F16 from Emmen, we have @Pheonix_RX01 incoming in 3…2…1…
IIRC, the only time GJ allowed trialed vehicle into the TT was in the SWE case with Mi28 (or something), because they didn’t have anything else. I doubt GJ would allow it to GER TT, but I’m fine what that too. I really don’t care where it comes from, just that the hole is filled.
And? It’s trialed, then it gets a fake Swiss camo and gets added who cares? It fills a gap and fits the current standards for a trial vehicle
Yes, it is an opinion, and a very bad one.
Did you learn about this topic by watching YouTube videos? Come on… I expected more from you.
By the way, what’s the connection between the Argentinian Kurassier and Germany? Tic Tac Tic Tac
Oh, I almost forgot, the TAM 2IP and TAM 2C were supposed to go to the Israeli Army, but for some reason, they’re also in Germany. And the Pucará leak? Oh yes, it was destined for the German TT.
Where do you think they’ll put the Pulqui II when NovA29 finishes it?
Nothing ? it’s an austrian tank hull which has a french turret slammed on it with a french gun?
Because the tam , as I stated, germany helped build it and design it lol.
The Pucará leak I can find literally nothing on it.
WDYM where will it go lol, it was designed by a german , one who also famously designed the damn FW 190.
It’s been a long time but it’s not hard to find info on the pucara
Exactly, if Argentine Kurassier can go to the German TT, Argentine F-16 can too.
TAM, yes.
But not TAM upgrade.TAM upgrade consists of removing German technology and replacing it with Israeli technology.
Any WT player already knows that.
Oh, really? I thought there was no connection between the Argentine and German planes. It’s strange, perhaps there are a few more planes like the Pulqui, considering that figures like Tank and Horten promoted aviation in Argentina. Even IA-63 Pampa was developed with German collaboration, wasn’t it?
However, the Pulqui or the Pampa are as German as Kurassier or F-16, aren’t they? I mean, if gaijin decides that Germany can receive Argentine vehicles, like Kurassier, then why can’t Germany receive an F-16?
Gaijin said that Argentina is not a German subtree, but also said that Argentine vehicles are on that technological tree.
Until we have a sign that a Latin American TT is coming, I will support the Argentine vehicles being in Germany.
It was added because its austrian.
“added to the German tech tree in War Thunder to fill a gap in light/fast tank destroyer roles, justified by Austria’s close historical and military ties to Germany, even though it uses a French-designed oscillating turret”
And if you dont rememebr when it was added it caused a huge sht storm.
yes but the base platform is still a tam , much akin to the VRCC the base platform is still a damn Centauro.
Any wt player, you’re the first person ive seen bring it up as an addition / leak to the game everything i can find shows its been removed from files.
No, Argentina took in a good handful of germaj scientists.
The jet you mention has direct involvement from germans as well as the other plane you’ve mentioned.
I believe its had some involvement from dornier, but j could be wrong.
Told you above, they added the Japka2 because it was austrian design because they are close to one another
Yes it is not, it has stated that equipment which germany is related to can be added.
The F16 they’ve not had a single thing to do with.
Support what you want chief, but germany as a tech tree shouldn’t be the one who just gets everything.
Thats not balanced for other trees 😂
But it is fair for Japan to get everything?
F-15, F-16, F-18, Gripen C, Mig-29, SU-30.
Also Indonesia is a confirmed sub tree for Japan so the list expands more with addition of jets such as
Rafale, SU-27, KF-21, KAI-T50, Another SU-30 and F-16
Thailand also bought Gripen E, also they already operates Gripen D, so the final list would be,
F-15, F-16, F-18D, Gripen C, Gripen E (Possibly Gripen D as well), Mig-29, SU-30, Rafale, KF-21, KAI-T50.
At this point Japan gets a jet from most nation, while jets like Rafale and KF-21 are literally the top tier jet of France and Combined korean tree. At this point they are just missing Eurofighter
(I also included jets like KF-21 and KAI-T50 as they are operated by South Korea (and Indonesia), since South Korea will be added soon as combined tree, I included them as well)
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not really and I was opposed and still am opposed to that too.
Japan though has the metric of they added the F2 far, far too late. As well as is a proper minor nation with barely anything in it before they rammed what 2 subtrees worth of crap into it?
We will see how much they actively input into japan if they even finalise Indonesia as a tree for them as it stands japan would have everything and not many people if any would stand for that.
As I stated above myself I am against it.
again they do deserve subtrees though as the tree was bare bones AF and was one of the original nations.
south korea added as a combined tree with what? if you mean with NK they already went back on that lol extremely quickly.
Pretty sure it has been confirmed, I remember asking about that in thread related to Japanese tree
Edit: Yes it is confirmed
They did? Where did they say something about that?
Not sure which part you didn’t understand, but GER TT is the only TT in the game that has a hole between 13.0 and 14.0. Getting this fixed isn’t “getting everything”, or disbalancing other TTs.
Youre wasting your time with him.
In terms of supply and demand, Germany is one of the most in demand nations and has an even lower supply than Japan in its aviation tree.