The thing is CAN or AUS haven’t “ended up”, yet.
Look at Italy. It begun as a GER subtree and ended up a standalone nation with other even smaller nations forming ITA’s subtrees. No one can say, GJ won’t withdraw, someday, DK kit from other nations and form a new standalone nation. As more and more hardware comes into game, more and more TTs become possible.
I believe a Pucará model was in game for while before being removed (probably cancelled), I think it was meant to be a premium sadly.
Edit:
found proof about it
IA. 58A Pucara - YouTube
Germany does not get spain lol, why on earth would they have an argument for spain?
Also they already have a subtree now, which is funny seeing as they’re the only major nation with a subtree.
They have canadian stuff, best hawker hunter, they have access to russian gear, they have Argentinian vebicles and as you said stuff they’ve not even touched
They also had the DF105 for 5 years before it was moved to France as well.
They are the only major nation which has a subtree…
Thats why people don’t want to see them get so much stuff
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US air tree
Russian air tree
German air tree
Germany is the has the emptiest air tree out of all three major nations. Swiss subtree has helped it fill the gap and hence i think why Germany got a subtree.
I mean, where would you even add a new subtree in both US and Russian tree?
East Germany used Russian equipment and hence it has Russian gear, best hawk hunter since Switzerland is a subtree of Germany, Canadian stuff is also present in British and US tree
Because they didn’t use that much air bar what we have now, though they are still missing a few planes here and there as far as I know.
Wdym where lol, it’s not about how filled the nation is BTW as we can see further down in Germany it has substantially more planes.
The best hawker was added a whole 2 years before the subtree was anounced 😂.
Canadian stuff is spread across the trees bar where it realistically should be.
It also has russian kit, the why it has it im aware of, but thats my point tbe bloody tree has so much variety compared to other nations.
It is though?
But we are not talking about lower ranks here, It’s literally a topic related to rank 8 and 9.
If we go along the lines of how Canada and such are kinda, I do think they’ll likely go in with Italy but it’s up in the air rn, pretty sure we only have 2 Spanish vehicles 1 on Germany and Italy. Though I would rather it not be split like Canada and AU are but that’s not my decision to make
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yes it is
talking about why germany deserves / needs yet another high BR top performing plane from another tree?
No, We have one Spanish vehicle in game right now and it’s the VRCC for Italy as it’s based off the VRCC.
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F-16C is no longer the top performing plane? There are far better jets at 13.7, Germany literally has no 13.3 or 13.7 jet and that is why Argentinian F-16 was suggested since I really cannot think of any 13.3 or 13.7 jet for Germany that is German
Subtree are literally ment to fill and support a nation. If a nation is already full then why does it require a subtree?
Operator is spain, TT is german.
I recall saying it in this very thread like four months back:
(yup it was here)
Apologies never even knew that was there.
So 2 then however the tiger isn’t exactly spanish is it, it’s like calling the eurofighter German, or British. It’s a eurocopter as it was designed and manufactured by multiple nations.
Then add them from the swiss tree, they shouldn’t just arbitrarily get planes they’ve had absolutely nothing to do with just due to missing some spots.
The Argintinian F-16 has had nothing to do with germany, there’s no reason for it to be there.
However as folks suggested some of the trialed US jets could fill the gaps.
what are you on about lol, Britain could of been filled with it’s own stuff, though they rammed SA and now India into it randomly.
they added NL to france which makes zero sense and would of been stupidely good for Germany.
EVEN if you google it the responses mostly refer to it being related for minor natons which lack equipment, like japan for example.
Why not use some of the US jets the germans trialed ? why would the Argentinian F16 go here’ like what’s the connector?
The Tams it’s differnet due to Germany being the primary developers / helping as much.
They had literally nothing to do with the F16 lol
F15 is likely a B model so probably doesn’t work here, the F-18 is 14.0 or 13.0 no in between. F20 idk so no comment.
Realistically there’s not a good fit for that argument unless something changes with Argentina
Argentina makes literally no sense.
Why not lol?
You want to fill the role for a 13.3-?7 fighter right?
Is the F15B not just a two seater version of the A? That doesn’t really fill the role. Also as for Argentina I see players from Argentina both want to be their own thing with LATM tree and also be part of Germany so my opinion in the end of it doesn’t matter because their want holds more worth especially given their ties to each other from an industry standpoint with the Tam.
Though realistically at the end of the day we hold no power and snails chooses what happens.
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This ☝️
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They have literally the TAM in common last i checked, aviation wise they share absolutely zero.
Yeah why I again am not active here on the forum, pointless voicing opinions on such that wont change