That’s my point Sweden will lose the Norsk F-16AM which was added to add variety given how small and repetitive Swedens air tree is.
Additionally Sweden can only get vehicles from the mentioned Nordic nations, other nations wouldn’t make sense.
Germany has an argument for Spain, Austria, and Argentina, probably another group but I’m not as familiar outside of those nations
Well, as you said, that ship long sailed, so we’re discussing open options.
And where anyone said that?
We’re talking about >1990, F16.
Brother this entire forum discussion for the F16 isn’t new it’s one of quite a few one of which is over 200 replies mentioning how Germany needs all of our vehicles and it’s nearly every other month I’m told I have no right to say where my home belongs and that current alliances are not valid opinions nor is past history.
Additionally I have no interest in having my home ripped apart like Canada or AU and being split between nations.
Besides why add a subnation when we’ve already crossed the line for trial vehicles and things like the Hornet or F15 for Germany since they exist?
And thats the issue. The only two logically choice (besides Poland, but i really want Poland yo be it’s own tree). And even those 2 nation don’t give anything new or good. Spain uses Eurofighter and F-18 (which are already present in Germany tree. As for Austria, they only jse Eurofighter and another aircraft which i forgot the name. Also i really don’t want to fight with Italian mains over who gets the Spanish tree
Thats one way of making American mains mad lol. But i am and always will be against trialed vehicles (but maybe i can ignore this one :D)
No idea where you get this either, but I argued that giving Denmark’s F16 to GER TT makes sense from operational standpoint and would make GER TT complete. No idea with whom you have a beef but that’s not me.
You’re going to get into a fight with everyone over something you’re doing that with me right now lol.
Why would it make sense? What connection does Germany have to a Danish F-16?
It’s an American vehicle tied to a nation that has more historical history and alliance ties with a different alliance that Germany isn’t connected to?
I bring up trial vehicles because we crossed that threshold when gaijin added the T-80U and Mi-28 to try and make more money.
I have always been of the opinion it was never a good idea, I have for the most part always sided with Germany when it came to issues with diversity between Sweden and Germany. I only dislike the idea of my home being split between two nations. Yes I main Denmark who is currently found on sweden but I mained Germany long before so I do know a bit about their trees struggles and try to keep up to date with proposed vehicles and fixes for them.
Fights over subtree nations really annoys me alot (Still remember the fights i had over Australian Sep v3 and Canadian leopards). They really are a big headache and I don’t wanto to do it again
You don’t understand, Germany suffers they need to take other European nations vehicles to get good
That’s exactly what’s going to happen, everyone has different opinions to everyone else, it’s just part of being human. A proper balance will never exist.
Also technically Argentina bought their F-16 from Denmark so technically Argentinian F-16 which could be added to Germany would have Danish origin :D
Well, they both train in ENJPPT (probably the most important factor), interleave in Baltic AP and now ‘Arctic Sentry’ from Keflavik, just of top of my head.
Sweden wasn’t in NATO up until 2024, while Denmark was one of the founder back in 1949.
But, as I said, this is a video game and if French can have Dutch F16s, Germans for sure can have Denmark’s.
Not really that, they do have a gap between 13.7 which imo should be filled, any gaps on any tree should be filled if possible but I personally am of the opinion gaijin should sit down and figure out trees from start to finish before adding more nations to the game.
Properly see what gaps they will have and how to fill them and what the future will look like.
The F16AJ for Japan could’ve been avoided if gaijin had added a subtree for them back then. Ect ect I think German players have a solid right to want something there but I personally don’t want to have my home under the flag of Germany when we already exist on Sweden and currently are able to fill out their TT better than Norway when it comes to filling gaps with our vehicles.
Especially given the F16AM should get IRIS-T and be moved up which leaves Sweden lacking a vehicle at 13.7 that can mount up to 6x Fox 3
Well, having a hole of a two BR steps in a row isn’t a matter of opinion, but balance.
French have Finnish SPAA, Germany has Finnish tanks, US has a Norwegian SAM yeah, it’s gonna happen but I can ask for that to not happen. It probably won’t matter but I don’t care it’s my opinion. You can hate it all you want
let’s be honest Gaijin could have filled out the hole way earlier if they really wanted to
Yeah I know Sweden had the biggest gap for literal years and still have plenty of which we can fill what Norway can’t while we are also all apart of the same alliance,(and Iceland too I guess lol)
Well yeah they could’ve but Gaijin has other plans that’s how it always goes.
