It’s been a long time but it’s not hard to find info on the pucara
Exactly, if Argentine Kurassier can go to the German TT, Argentine F-16 can too.
TAM, yes.
But not TAM upgrade.TAM upgrade consists of removing German technology and replacing it with Israeli technology.
Any WT player already knows that.
Oh, really? I thought there was no connection between the Argentine and German planes. It’s strange, perhaps there are a few more planes like the Pulqui, considering that figures like Tank and Horten promoted aviation in Argentina. Even IA-63 Pampa was developed with German collaboration, wasn’t it?
However, the Pulqui or the Pampa are as German as Kurassier or F-16, aren’t they? I mean, if gaijin decides that Germany can receive Argentine vehicles, like Kurassier, then why can’t Germany receive an F-16?
Gaijin said that Argentina is not a German subtree, but also said that Argentine vehicles are on that technological tree.
Until we have a sign that a Latin American TT is coming, I will support the Argentine vehicles being in Germany.
It was added because its austrian.
“added to the German tech tree in War Thunder to fill a gap in light/fast tank destroyer roles, justified by Austria’s close historical and military ties to Germany, even though it uses a French-designed oscillating turret”
And if you dont rememebr when it was added it caused a huge sht storm.
yes but the base platform is still a tam , much akin to the VRCC the base platform is still a damn Centauro.
Any wt player, you’re the first person ive seen bring it up as an addition / leak to the game everything i can find shows its been removed from files.
No, Argentina took in a good handful of germaj scientists.
The jet you mention has direct involvement from germans as well as the other plane you’ve mentioned.
I believe its had some involvement from dornier, but j could be wrong.
Told you above, they added the Japka2 because it was austrian design because they are close to one another
Yes it is not, it has stated that equipment which germany is related to can be added.
The F16 they’ve not had a single thing to do with.
Support what you want chief, but germany as a tech tree shouldn’t be the one who just gets everything.
Thats not balanced for other trees 😂
But it is fair for Japan to get everything?
F-15, F-16, F-18, Gripen C, Mig-29, SU-30.
Also Indonesia is a confirmed sub tree for Japan so the list expands more with addition of jets such as
Rafale, SU-27, KF-21, KAI-T50, Another SU-30 and F-16
Thailand also bought Gripen E, also they already operates Gripen D, so the final list would be,
F-15, F-16, F-18D, Gripen C, Gripen E (Possibly Gripen D as well), Mig-29, SU-30, Rafale, KF-21, KAI-T50.
At this point Japan gets a jet from most nation, while jets like Rafale and KF-21 are literally the top tier jet of France and Combined korean tree. At this point they are just missing Eurofighter
(I also included jets like KF-21 and KAI-T50 as they are operated by South Korea (and Indonesia), since South Korea will be added soon as combined tree, I included them as well)
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not really and I was opposed and still am opposed to that too.
Japan though has the metric of they added the F2 far, far too late. As well as is a proper minor nation with barely anything in it before they rammed what 2 subtrees worth of crap into it?
We will see how much they actively input into japan if they even finalise Indonesia as a tree for them as it stands japan would have everything and not many people if any would stand for that.
As I stated above myself I am against it.
again they do deserve subtrees though as the tree was bare bones AF and was one of the original nations.
south korea added as a combined tree with what? if you mean with NK they already went back on that lol extremely quickly.
Pretty sure it has been confirmed, I remember asking about that in thread related to Japanese tree
Edit: Yes it is confirmed
They did? Where did they say something about that?
Not sure which part you didn’t understand, but GER TT is the only TT in the game that has a hole between 13.0 and 14.0. Getting this fixed isn’t “getting everything”, or disbalancing other TTs.
Youre wasting your time with him.
In terms of supply and demand, Germany is one of the most in demand nations and has an even lower supply than Japan in its aviation tree.
Why not just ask Smin here why Germany can’t just get Danish or Argentinian F-16s to fill Germany gap rather than continuing to argue. He’s really the only one who can answer that
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Give Britain the RNZAF F-16s
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Do you guys need F-14, F-15, Gripen E, J-16, F-22, J-20, SU-57 as well? Seems like you guys struggle alot in in terms of air. Those plane will definitely help you alot
The entire reason I want Argentinean F-16 for Germany is to fill the gap between 13.0 to 14.0. Britain has Gripen C for that, and in future they would also have MIG-29K to do so (If it is s placed at 13.7).
If Germany had something to will that gap, I would have been against addition of F-16 to Germany
What. You’re talking like a 12.3 F-16 for Britain wouldn’t be a help. There is nothing good at that BR for Britain, bar the already overtiered F-4M at 12.0
It would be 12.3? I thought it would have been 13.7/3. In that case I don’t really mind it being added since there is a gap between 12.0 and 13.0 in British tree and it would probably help the tree
New Zealand never had AMRAAMs or SARH missiles. It’s loadouts would have consisted of 4x 9L. Plus it could bring in the first two seater F-16
Two seater F-16 is already in game
Both F-16I and F-16D in Israeli tree are double seater.
Oops sorry I dont look at the Israeli tree at all lmao
New Zealand never had F-16s in the first place, the deal was cancelled and not a single F-16 was ever delivered to the RNZAF.
- Doesnt matter
- We did lease them, it was just cancelled before they entered service.
It meets the requirements to be added to the game, just poor poor Britain can’t get anything
F-16D? F-16I?
I was already corrected on that. I forgot the Israeli tree extended past rank IV
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