Wow, that’s crazy, it’s almost as if they’re using the larger player base to get feedback on Enlisted on how they will implement them into a game that’s called and I quote “WAR THUNDER.”
Actually, it was originally exclusive to aircraft. did you complain about the addition of tanks, helicopters, and ships to this combined-arms game as well?
elitist ah, plus I don’t think crashing out and pointing fingers is a good way to get heard…
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Also funny how we still have modern vehicles with WW2 crewmodels (e.g. Leopard 40/70) or comically rough animations for open top vehicles gunners (some even are just hidden in the hull, because animations’d be too hard to make: Wiesel 1A2, Fiat 6614 and etc), but we are getting infantry mode…
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It’s funny he calls himself a veteran, yet I am a veteran, May 30th, 2017. I’ve been playing since 16, I’m 25 now. They always scapegoat us Veterans cause we’ve been playing a long time, but here’s the truth, we don’t actually care anymore. If Gaijin releases cool stuff, ok. It’s nothing but aw man all well.
We’ve got a strong, tight community built around the game modes we already have. Adding another mode , one we can literally play by just downloading a different game is pointless, especially if it means making War Thunder heavier by another 70GB ( and that’s not even counting the extra 170GB of Ultra HD textures you can download through the launcher ).
This is not the time to add infantry.
It’s not the moment.
We have bigger problems.
We have more important things that need fixing.
Infantry should NOT be a development priority in a game the community has supported for years.
We don’t need infantry.
We don’t need another tech tree to grind for months.
If someone wants infantry gameplay, then honestly: go play Enlisted, Battlefield, Squad, Hell Let Loose, or any other game built for that.
But don’t shove another mode into War Thunder that will be dead as soon as the big YouTubers milk it for a couple of months and then go right back to tanks, planes, and ships which a lot of players barely touch already.
The infantry hype is just engagement bait.
There’s nothing truly beneficial about adding it to the game.
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If the gun plays good I’m in and I’ve run out of tanks in interested in playing
If the “infantry hype” dies and no one plays it, it just won’t be updated and then there’s no problem. It is a closed beta test after all- if the test goes poorly no further work will be put into the mode. Tests that went well (e.g. Rank IX) are eventually expanded into full modes that people enjoy, while one that don’t (e.g. Silent Thunder) are mostly forgotten, or potentially brought back for further iteration at a later date. The only way Gaijin is diverting resources to a proper combined-arms mode is if there are players who are interested (and invested). You really have nothing to worry about in the long-term unless you just really have a problem with other people enjoying a game mode that you don’t.
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Pointing fingers and complaining is the best way to give feedback about the game. Or do you want the community to just sit quietly and accept all the flaws happening in the game without being able to criticize or question things that matter way more than a damn new infantry tech tree, my dude?
There isn’t a single game out there where you can’t give feedback by calling out the mistakes and complaining about certain additions or problems that don’t just affect you. the guy who doesn’t even play 80 hours a week, but the entire community and every game mode that exists.
Tell me, bro: do you want the community to stay completely silent, or are you just trying to farm support from the 0.07% of people who think this is a great moment to shove another stinky grind down players’ throats for months just so it can be sold later ?
Man, it’s like trying to clean your room while the dog keeps messing everything up again. There’s no point in explaining how exhausted the community is from seeing so many issues ruining the game and not being heard, just because some dude thinks “we shouldn’t complain because the game belongs to them.
You can just not play it as well if you’re not interested in it……
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Pointing fingers and complaining provide no actual information of value to improve the game.
Pointing fingers and complaining is not constructive feedback; it’s just people whining.
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That’s where you’re wrong. What is an effective means of change is rational and reasonable argument, e.g. “I think AI infantry makes the most sense for this mode for X Y Z reasons”. What doesn’t help us crashing out about “new players killing mah game” and “Gaijin should only listen to me because I have 10,000 hours”. You say there are issues you’ve been complaining about for years that haven’t been addressed- why do you think that is? Because you didn’t scream loud enough? Or maybe do you need to calm down and consider other perspectives, and change your methods?
Claiming to stand for the community while simultaneously saying Gaijin should only listen to “veterans with 10,000 hours”… not a good look, man. Especially if your platform is “players shouldn’t be allowed to try this new game mode and see if they like it”. Infantry isn’t even out yet, hold your complaints until it’s had some time to cook!
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🤷 can’t help you dude it’s coming play it, don’t play it, you won’t be forced to play it if you choose not to, you won’t be forced to pay anything to play it if you don’t want to, but if it affects you this much you can always play something else there are many other games in the world. I’m interested to see how it goes and I know a number of people who haven’t played warthunder in years who despise the game are actually coming back to try the beta if they get accepted to the beta. But getting annoyed at people on the forums is also not a great way to approach this.
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I do like the idea of infantry and new mechanics but not the enlisted style. Liked for the username.
Yeah the squad thing feels a bit meh if choices were available I’d shy away from ai squad mates I’d rather replace squad ai with squadded friends to fill the roles
yes … in a very specific way. Enlisted did since the beginning have “scorched earth” approach to balance and monetization. If anyone thinks that WT has problems with this, then … well, they are right of course but Enlisted is far, far worse. And so it ended in … well, to say it in a diplomatic way, in an exactly what everyone expected kind of situation.
So thanks to this, if Gaijin would release modern infantry as part of Enlisted (aka exactly the game that was developed for exactly this type of gameplay) it’d miserably fizzle out and no one would care … a few diehard fans would buy a few packs and Enlisted would continue on the downward spiral towards irrelevancy. So Gaijin pretty much doesn’t have other choice than shoehorning modern infantry into WT … lots of WT players don’t play Enlisted, don’t know about any of the problems, the hype can work for WT playerbase (it absolutely wouldn’t in Enlisted) and if nothing else a few more premium packs will be sold.
And not to forget, Gaijin will sure use this for sabotaging WT … if anyone dislikes naval tasks in WT battlepass, then bend over and get prepared for Gaijin shoehorning infantry tasks into that … and there are oh-so-many very obvious “improvements” they sure have ready.
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i just hope that it isnt an enlisted C&P with shiity AI squads. it doesnt work in enlisted it wont work here
It’s an optional game mode in the events section of the game.
Why is this an issue for you?
Here’s how I already explained it earlier.
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There will be major server issues in every game mode because of this “new” mode that’s literally a copy-and-paste of dead Enlisted.
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More code is going to be added on top of the existing code, and that’s going to cause even more problems with the basic functionality of the game.
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I don’t have the option of refusing to download another 40GB for a game mode that should be implemented in a game called Enlisted, not in War Thunder.
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If this ends up working for less than five thousand players a day, we’re probably going to see premium squad packs with new guns and soldier skins that will take the place of the promotions that actually matter, like airplanes, ships, tanks, and helicopters.
All I see is some insane denial that you guys just don’t want to acknowledge. It looks like you’re masochists who want the company to add even more problems to the game instead of fixing the issues we’ve been reporting for more than five updates now.
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I mean… who even asked infantry in the game?
There’s a ton of work to do before spending lot of their moneys and times for implementing infantry.
I probably won’t play much anyway because absolutely no interest in anything other than aircrafts.
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we’ll see how optional it is in the beginning … and how optional it will be few months later.
We can already smell infantry challenges in battlepass … put one infantry challenge in there and that’s -7 BP levels for anyone who doesn’t care about “optional” infantry.
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