@MikeyPlayzonYT
How is saying there’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs “ragebait”?
Either prove them real or agree with us that there’s no evidence at this time.
I’ve been demanding people provide evidence for the better part of 2 months on the forum, longer on Discord.
I initially said there’s no evidence of the existence of Kh-38MTs, I’ve never said anything otherwise.
Sorry, but Kh-38MTs lack evidence regardless of what y’all claim.
Swingfire be changing his positions constantly though.
I’ve said this in the past myself. SwingfireOP and I have agreed on over 80% of things stated.
SwingfireOP and I were literally saying on the Kh-38MT may not exist topic that there was no evidence. He knows my stance cause it’s his stance as well.
Also I’ve amended my initial post to portray my thoughts and position more accurately.
There’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs as of my current knowledge set. If anyone has evidence, provide it, otherwise we agree.
I’m calling the War Thunder Players Union of a stupid idea, while we know that who really made change were the players as a whole, if the War Thunder Players Union actually did something to help change, they would have over millions of members in their Reddit, which is not the case.
War Thunder is one of the few games within a theme doesn’t have a direct competition, you need to understand that World of Tanks doesn’t aim for realism, it aims for the complete opposite, while being better suitable for tournaments, War Thunder is more niche compared to a game like World of Tanks that is easy to understand.
If it’s 80% issue for the community should be addressed, while in the Forums compose the minimal percentage of the total of players in War Thunder, this wouldn’t do nothing, is a very specific topic, not everyone plays day and night high tiers in ground realistic battles.
omg this is so true, it took me 9 ground match to research parts and only 2 matches to get rank I mod on planes
that would require alota work, im sure gaijin would… NOT do it
yeah but 1000sp u can nuke 30% of the team and deal significant dmg to morale and some would one dead leave = win
and getting nuke isnt always guarantee, its better to spawn a planes that can nuke 30% of the opponents than trying to go for the nuke itself @PyroAddict i know what ur gonna say
dont say it
let “him” cook
IMHO it could’ve been an interesting concept if the typical after-success megalomania had not intervened in their hierarchy, but considering how you rephrased it, i’d agree.
This is a completely valid (and indeed correct) theory in a deep analysis. However, the reality is, most of media and the internet likes to compare both games, regardless of their core mechanics or concepts. So in practice, they’re competition for the public, and they tend to appeal to the same market. No wonder why both games have this practice to add those odd pillows.
I mean, it’s almost common sense.
I can see where your argument is going, but there’s enough content on most of social media reviewing the missile (and its respective platform), saying how great it is compared to other AGMs, and comments that also support such claims. This is not just ‘a forum thing’, and i don’t know if it’s a fair way to frame it to begin with.
Also, i could’ve believed that top tier wasn’t played as much a couple of years ago. But now, with the US, USSR, Germany, GB, Japan and Israel having at least a 11.3 vehicle that can effectively face the top dogs, i’m not sure if that sample of yours as a ‘minority’ of the playerbase is such a thing.
Considering that the Su-30SM, Su-34 can carry six Kh-38MT that would be ~18% about 19% of the team, which means one single ordnance for a single target not considering collateral either by explosion nearby by splash of the ordnance itself or exploding targets (like the Panther incident causing the destruction of neaby allied or enemy vehicles when hit in the ammo).
In my opinion, or better, in my gameplay style which consist of a single vehicle per match, I think seeing six of the team members being destroyed isn’t really morale damaging, the only moment of morale damaging is taking a hit in the breech, having the gunner and driver knocked out or not being able to flee out of an encounter I can’t deal with.
As I said, even if it’s cost is increased to over 1 000 spawn points, there will be people that will do the same as if it wasn’t increased, the performance is the same, even before the Buff you mentioned which I wasn’t knowing about it will still act the same, as I said, is more reliable taking similar and cheaper weapons or going straight for a Nuke rather than playing just to get the Kh-38MT at that point, at least that what I would do.
Prove her false and I will believe her, prove her true and I will believe her, I just ask for correction of the FM of the Flankers and Mig-29, otherwise it’s fine
there’s circumstantial evidence China tested them.
mass tagging is such a strange thing to do, don’t come into a discussion by stating something with literally no base behind it, getting a response back, and acting smug while fishing for drama. Get off your high horse.
@PaulsBackPack
You’re more than welcome to prove a functional Kh-38MT exists if you think my stance is incorrect.
Since I made my stance clear that there’s no evidence of its functional existence, it is up to you to either agree with my stance or prove it existed.
However, considering you liked posts that repeated my takes, it’s safe to say you agree with our takes here.
Zanna and I made the same exact statements, by the by.
the funny thing is your claim that the Kh38 doesn’t exist is CORRECT. I just disagree with the idea of evidence existing that China tested it.
how can China test a missile that never existed, its a oxymoron. that single detail stirred up both the people who defend the addition of the Kh38, and the people who want it gone.
You replied to the wrong person by the by.
I already stated there’s no evidence of the missile functioning multiple times in the last 2 months.
By my rationale, the United States would not have a hypersonic cruise missile if there is no evidence of a functioning one.
@PaulsBackPack
I didn’t use the word 'test", I mistyped “involved with” initially, and that caused confusion both for myself and others. I didn’t proof-read after that mistype, and thought it was correctly worded when it wasn’t.
That was corrected and misquoting me won’t change my stance.
Either way, I’m glad we 100% agree that China never tested the missiles.
The “missile” from the trade show is a model, not a real missile. Almost everyone believes that missile exists from that one photo from the trade show which is now debunked as a model. Clearly there’s no way Russia, USA, or any nation would use a live or even inert (can still be fired) missile for a show. If there was a clear photo of one sitting on an SU, that’d be a different story but it’s a paper missile unless other proof comes out meaning it should be removed.
I made these points and shortly after the KH38 thread was closed.
They’re also getting a speed limit and that 15km range is not new, they were already launched from that range.
I’ve launched Kh-38MTs, Hammers, and AGM-65Ds from 16 - 20km consistently.
Though, if you think they’ll still be OP in the new era of SPAA, I’d love to see the new 1v1s.
Flying high is now a death sentence cause 3 of the tech trees have high-altitude F&F missile coverage; of course I do expect bugs for the first month, potentially up to 3.