Are the KH38MTs getting removed due to lack of evidence?

If there’s no evidence of

Then there’s no evidence of such missile working at all.

By the logic you’re appealing to, the US has a hypersonic cruise missile, it just lacks the evidence of being used on different platforms.

Alvis just ragebaited everyone and you all fell for it lmaooo

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No. I won’t play those games with you.

You made specific claims. You are being asked to back them up.

You said, and I quote :

There’s cirumstantial evidence china tested them

That is vastly different to the reality, in which some mockups were at an air show and mounted to an aircraft. That’s not tesing, that’s sales.

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There’s a difference between rage and calling out false claims. :)

You don’t get it? He initially defended the existence of the Kh-38MT, got people riled up, posted a reply agreeing with them, and then deleted the earlier defenses. I’m normally against ragebaiting but that was just funny. The fact he @'d everyone too lmao

He doesn’t do this. He’s very much extremely serious at all times. Consider that when you read his posts.

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As @SwingfireOP said, there’s a difference between ragebaits and false claims.

there’s ALSO a difference between ragebaits and sowing misinformation.

I don’t see rage, I see him trolling and making false claims, which I always push back on.

I reserve my rage exclusively for gaijin and people who chew with their mouths open.

Well whatever he did, it was hilarious. Not because he’s entertaining, but because how ridiculous it is.

I’m very much well aware.

Same and real.

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huh neat. Anywho, sense theres basically nothing about its seeker head. Would this be a bug report type of problem or a passed to developers type of thing?

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A bug report could be tried, but I’m fairly sure it would be rejected as the only source is a marketing brochure.

The irony isn’t lost on me.

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It was commented and then closed. The original idea of the thread was good, a welcome discussion to open in the Forums, but as you can see at least I think you experienced, the great majority of the comments on that reply either was just a scratch disk repeating the same-same comments or others that don’t have nothing to do; resulting in a huge derail and sudden close of the thread.


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erm sir please provide source

Personally I think the idea of removing the Kh-38MT is not going to happen even if we (players) get at a point of the “War Thunder Players Union” stupidity again just because of a in-game item that affect a small percentage of the players compared to the game as a whole, that’s why I think we didn’t have any official comments if that whole chaos made in that thread will result in something, actually did: in nothing.

i mean i would be fine if kh-38mt is ingame if

  1. They buff other AGM(65s drag coefficient, flight profile, etc…)
  2. Make it cost 1k+ sp to spawn(since its stupidly OP compare to other AGM)
  3. Buff SPAA(no CAS=tank gameplay, yay)
  4. ACTUALLY FIXING SPAA(adats bug report on elevation is 2 years for example)
  5. Give more reward on killing planes
  6. They nerf 38mt(zoom and thermal are better than some targeting pod, wowie, nerf to 15x zoom and gen 2 thermal-its 25x and gen 3 currently)
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Calling the 2023 episode a ‘stupidity’ is… Concerning. And shows the lack of understanding of why games like the main competitor of WT is dying at a supersonic pace. The excessive amounts of greed and lack of Quality of Life updates were leading the game into a crash course at a vertiginous speed.

So if it’s not a 50+1% issue for the community, it shouldn’t be adressed? How selfish is that.

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Yeah ive made one and they instantly denied. GAIJIN and thier Russian Bias

You can post that bug report?

I just wonder it.

In my opinion the AGM-65, specially HEAT warhead only needs a rework on the overpressuring and penetration logic, some times (regardless of the vehicle) it explodes but causes no internal damage, further a crater is made under the target as if it wasn’t hit by a missile.

Making a weapon cost over 1 000 spawn points is pointless, better off going to a Nuke or get similar and cheaper weapons, the Kh-29T still a very effective with 1/4 of the total range of an Kh-38MT in-game currently. Despite the issues with bug report not being fixed within days and such stupidity from the CBRS, ADATS and other currently in-game SACLos missiles can still beat ordnances as well planes, I was surprised that a VT-1 could face some missiles in a match.

Regarding rewards, is a in-game general issue, I agree that ground realistic battles specially ground vehicles need better rewards compared to air realistic battles, you sneeze one time and got enough research points for a plane while you destroy the whole world for a Rank I modification, obviously is exaggeration but I mean that the reward between one and another doesn’t help the situation, specially in a gamemode that can take between 10 minutes to the total 25 minutes.

@MikeyPlayzonYT
How is saying there’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs “ragebait”?

Either prove them real or agree with us that there’s no evidence at this time.
I’ve been demanding people provide evidence for the better part of 2 months on the forum, longer on Discord.

I initially said there’s no evidence of the existence of Kh-38MTs, I’ve never said anything otherwise.

Sorry, but Kh-38MTs lack evidence regardless of what y’all claim.

Swingfire be changing his positions constantly though.

I’ve said this in the past myself. SwingfireOP and I have agreed on over 80% of things stated.
SwingfireOP and I were literally saying on the Kh-38MT may not exist topic that there was no evidence. He knows my stance cause it’s his stance as well.

Also I’ve amended my initial post to portray my thoughts and position more accurately.

There’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs as of my current knowledge set. If anyone has evidence, provide it, otherwise we agree.