I feel tech trees are definitely in need of some fundamental change (like folder nations as one example).
I mean the system designed for solely interwar and ww2 aircraft for UK, Germany, USA, Japan and USSR. Now we also have France, Italy, Sweden China and Israel as well as ground vehicles, coastal+ bluewater vessels, helicopters and ucavs spanning from ww1 to modern day with several subtree and gap fillers nations.
Now it’s a very large amount of bickering of who goes where and domestic vehicles having to compete with subtrees and one off additions (as an example, where will we have room to add Swiss ground vehicles in the German tree).
Are the 10 trees (most of which have 1 or 2 subtree nations) we have really the best way forward?
Please discuss civily.
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I wouldn’t say outdated, I think they have a place, it’s just how Gaijin has been treating every other nation that’s an issue.
After all, being able to select and play your nation is great, what’s not great is filling said nation with other nations that are treated as lesser because Gaijin doesn’t want to spend time or effort or having your stuff ripped apart.
Also, most ideas to get around the issue don’t work in a line-up-based game, and quickly lead to only OP vehicles allowed or treat other nations as even lesser than sub-trees.
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Im going to have a hot take and say that I believe tech trees and subtrees ultimately arent bad idea, they just have lots of issues.
Most additions are half baked, there are still massive gaps, theres competition of domestic vs subtree stuff etc.
The constant bickering of which country goes where doesnt exactly help either.
BUT
Let us take a big sip from the truth cup - not every country will be represented as standalone in WT, nor they should be. We simply dont need 80% copypaste standalone TT to introduce 20% of unique vehicles and modifications.
Im fine with current system staying, it just needs to be fixed and expanded upon.
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Tech trees are going nowhere because it forces people to buy multiple premiums/ premium time to grind through all the copy slop to get the few unique things in the tree.
It would be nice if they stopped splitting nations through multiple trees though, it might be an easy solution to filling gaps for gaijin, but it sucks for those of use from those nations that might want to actually make a lineup of our vehicles.
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I use this meme in topics like this:

There is no easy way for Gaijin to revamp the tech trees without taking away (or giving away) the work and money players have put into the existing structures. Changing the game progression structure even becomes a legal liability when it comes to financial “investment” in the game.
And they haven’t done much to make things better. Blatant cut and paste cross tree padding of vehicles (like the M44/55s for example) don’t help the situation.
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I honestly wouldn’t more nations being reduced to subs although not like current trees where tons of unique vehicles are skipped or made events.
I do wonder what the trees would be like if Italy was the last tree we got considering it was the last nation that can have a air, ground, naval and heli force to a somewhat similar extent to the other older trees where Israel, Sweden and China fail in the naval segment (not to mention the Swedish heli tree just barely exists).