Skill issue. Every other Fox-3 can do the same if it’s launched from above. Learn how to notch.
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Dont fly low. And I mean this unironically. Youre just gimping yourself.
Speed and alt, or energey advantage overall, is the key.
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No
You need to fly low for the bases and pillboxes. But what are these mission targets good for, when high flying jets just lock and shot everything.
Its said multipath 50m, so it should mean anyone flying low should be safe from these nonsense radar missiles. This usually works ok, except noticed R77-1 seems to ignore the multipath mechanic.
Its especially unfair cause with aim120 you basically never hit anything near the ground or also farther away. Above 15, 20 km no hope to get kills.
What are you flying that it requires you to go for pillboxes and can meet R-77-1 naturally?
also if you go for ground targets when enemy team is still up, thats kinda on you.
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I’m trying to grind the event 40.000 points all two days. It only works when you go for ground stuff. Hunting enemy players cost too much time and efford. Best is with bombing bases and gun down some static npc. It quickly generates match points. Rather than doing all the pvp nonsense…climbing and notching and do all these pointless missilile jousts, which rarely gets you a kill with aim120.
To shake off an enemy missile takes time and gives no income. Evasion of missiles gets you nothing, but its the main thing you have to waste your time high up. Unfortnately with R77-1 you never get a base.
1 hour 44 minutes for the first star of this event, with 19 games and average length of one game being 5 minutes 31 seconds.
With rank VIII, it was only 13480 “raw” score before multipliers for single star.
More than doable with PvP only.
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You probably just need to be an elite player. But whatever I lock, is not hit or just killed by someone else. So there should be an alternative, like grinding npc and R77-1 makes it impossible. In other BRs you can also bomb bases. But top tier RB is idiotic, its outright impossible.
far from it.
I used to have same issue until I realized its matter of speed and alt, ie. having enough energy before launch, thus giving the missile faster time to target and the enemy less time to defend.
whenever ground attackers are viable in current ARB or not is another different matter. Sadly, they currently are not.
Im not gonna tell you how you should grind the event, but top tier PvP is both faster and more profitable on average than going for bases or ground units, as you dont die as often trying to reach ground targets.
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Multipath worked. There is no reason to deny NPC activity to the players. Adding op stuff which somehow prevents effective MP?? Why? Can’t they just stick to 50m as relative safe zone? This radar meta just goes too far.
Some missiles should have even lower MP alt. Its just how things are. Modern missile isnt going to be affected by MP.
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Is there somehow a way to quickselect at least the nearest radar contact? Its all a bit confusing. The amount of contacts is staggering,
Quote from Xeno_quaza from another thread on the same topic:
Always Rus get stuff like this. Somehow sad for a vid game company.
TL;DR: Not Russian bias (this time): Just multipath at 30m and notch sometimes and you will be fine.
Why:
Comparing the AIM-120 and R77-1 there are only two significant differences: proxy fuse range and explosive mass. The AIM-120 has a bigger proxy fuse range (12m vs 10m), but the R-77-1 has more explosive mass (15,5kg vs 9,8kg). This may be why it feels a bit different. (There are of course also tiny differences in lofting, but those are inconsequential imo).
However, I do not think that is the whole story. The reason why you get splashed while others do not is probably because of two reasons, you multipath incorrectly and you do not notch while multipathing. Let me explain.
Multipath height matters a lot. 30m is the ideal height for multipath, going higher or lower than that reduces its effectiveness. The more you move away from 30m the less effective the multipath will be, with 50m or 10m height having a very small effect. 60m has no effectiveness and so does 0m.
You will get splashed when too low like in the example image:
However, when launched from up high, you can still get splashed by missiles even if you are multipathing perfectly. This makes just multipathing a gambling mans strategy even if used fully correctly. This is why it feels so frustrating, you do everything correctly and still die.
What should you do then?
Actually just notch when multipathing, that’s all. Missiles CANNOT use SRC TRK when looking down, and therefore CANNOT see you when you are notching and they are looking down. They NEED datalink or IOG, both of which are imprecise and IOG drifts a lot unless updated. Notching also tends to notch the shooting aircraft radar, making the missile fully rely on IOG, essentially guaranteeing a miss as you change your pathing a lot when down low.
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In incredibly mid and I can farm through pvp just fine.
Shouldn’t it put the missile into notch though?
Sometimes yes, but not if the plane is moving in such a way that the angle towards the ground, and the angle towards the target aircraft are different.
Fun fact: Datalink is perfectly accurate in game. Atleast so much so as your radar’s lock is (so in this case it will still be affected by multipathing, but regardless).
Multipathing is bugged right now. It only works at 30m and is virtually useless at 60m.
There is a YouTube video where some guy did a testing on multipathing.
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