Vietnam pilots discussing the AGM-45 Shrike and specifically ‘lofting’ it to increase range
F105 performing a 45+ degree loft of a Shrike
F105 performing a 45+ degree loft of a Shrike
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Well that is one hell of an aggressive loft. Or there is a radar on the moon that they’re targeting. Haha
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The issue is that the Seeker only has an FoV of about +/- 4 degrees so has a very small searched volume once it goes terminal so needs to be lofted the same way, one would shoot a basketball in order to ensure that the geometry works out.
There is a computer assisted launch mode (CCRP) though so it’s not as if they are lofting it by eye, most of the time.
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I need it
Found some data on the AGM-78
As per
The AGM-78A only covers the S band (NATO D though F band).
The AGM-78B,C & D cover 2.65 to 3.2, 4.8 to 5.3 GHz, and 8.8 to 9.6 GHz (S, C & X old band, so covers approximately E though I NATO, though depending on how things are modeled may erroneously include J band ) Which is similar to the AGM-45x-10 Broadband seeker, though does include a novel memory circuit / INS capability.
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Is it possible AGM-45A & AGM-45B Shrike and AGM-78A ~ AGM-78C Standard ARM coming to this month ?
I felt there was something missing on the A-6 Intruder. Was a bit disappointed that it didn’t have access to the AGM 88 HARM.
Flying low and fast work fine to evade gun SPAA’s with radar and even better aginst gun SPAA with IRST, but against missile SPAA it doesn’t work so well and there’s no real direct counter to them.
With anti rad missiles it forces the a little bit smarter gameplay on the SPAA players and it gives planes a better fighting chance against them
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Hi all, I was looking for information on anti-radiation missiles for the French forces (since it seems that the addition of these weapons is getting closer and closer) when I came across information about the ARMAT missile, does anyone know what it is?
From what I have seen it seems that it is an improvement of the Martel used by France and England. However, many articles contradict each other, some citing ARMAT as being Martel.
It has been tested and used on Mirage F1, Mirage 3E, and Mirage 2000s. Although nothing on Rafale for ARMs, although they shoudl allow for the Rafale to launch AASM Hammer towards the location of an enemy radar ping which it can do and has been reported, acting almost like an ARM.
Rafale’s RWR should be able to create sensor point-of-interest // Gaijin.net // Issues
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Thanks to @Saprano_2132 the spreadsheet in the main post of this thread has now been updated for the latest game version.
If anyone has information on the radar band coverage of ARMs not currently in the spreadsheet, then please do share that information here.
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I think the AGM-78 still needs to be updated as per;
As such on the Spreadsheet the AGM-78A should additionally be able to track the SAG MPDR-16 (Roland SAM) radar as it is in the NATO D band.
And the Digital AGM-78(B, -C &-D variants) are effectively similar to the AGM-88C/D listing as no C band radars are implemented.
@Flame2512 For some reason spreadsheet have mistakes when early harm can attack some radar, and later one can’t. For example CLAWS TADS
Yeah something strange is going on there. I will have to investigate
It’s not a primary source, but i’ve found this italian blog with some detailed specifications on the AGM-78 and the AGM-88, which might be useful without any other concrete sources.
AGM-78A/B/C: Gross weight 627kg, Aerodjet mk.27, 6804 kg.f of thrust in the 4 second boost phase, 907 kg.f of thrust for the 22 second sustainer phase (thus a total impulse 462 737 N.s ?), missile speed at burnout mach 1,8, range 56 km (perhaps sea level?)
AGM-78D: Gross weight 748 kg (other sites have quoted 615 kg though) Aerodjet Mk-69 Mod 0, total impulse 54432 kg (533 978 N.s or 120 000 lb.s), maximum range 112 km.
AGM-78A:Operating band NATO E/F (like shrike)
AGM-78B:Maxim broadband sensor, NATO E/F/G/I
AGM-78C:Bendix broadband sensor, NATO E/F/G/I
AGM-78D:General dynamics broadband sensor, 2 to 10 GHz (E to I)
I’ll take it over here, ALARM did get used, many were fired in Op Granby
The issue I see is Gaijin going
“No, its unfair that so many ALARM can be carried, therefore you will use AGM-88 instead”
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Do you have any suggestions on it or something where i want to know more about it.
Bacause if its weaker and has less range than range than the agm88, surly gaijin will give more than 6.
This thread is probably the best for that, scroll to the first post
But TLDR version iirc.
Less range (though, still got more than enough) and a little slower, but has a loiter mode (That I doubt will be modeled) where ite deploys a parachute above the targets last known position if the radar is turned off and waits for a few minutes for the radar to turn back on again
and the Tonka can in-theory carry 9 :P
i dont see where unless they take it instead of the CM pods
so i did my little reading session.
its quite nice and fast. only downside is maybe the range.
would be better to give it to eft rather than other strike plane ( except tornado ). i am sure that would quite increase the range of it and become quite powerful and be the same level as the other. also double boster is op while the other have a sustainer one. also no way they gonna model the parachute mode, thats just unfair.