They should leave it IMO.
If they bring it back down to 7.7 where it was first introduced it might make sense to remove APDS, ultimately as long at you have these tiny urban maps SPAA should do better than MBT’s. It’s the map size that makes them dangerous.
Bigger maps make SPAA APDS useless against MBT’s.
You can’t just remove something because you don’t like it, if it’s historical especially. Otherwise there is no standard against bias and sabotage of models.
I’m already severely disappointed with a lot of damage models in this game.
Even with arcade lead indicator being a thing ZSU-57-2 would be barely usable at 6.0 as an AA. As for the rest of your comment, you’re out of your mind.
I think the only one that’s schizophrenic in there is you.
If you play Germany/Japan you don’t exactly have a choice, only USA and Russia have tanks that can survive the SAP-I, neverminded the APDS at 8.3. And are we counting the T-72 as “lightly armoured” now?
I didn’t, I commented that it’s removal is justified for multiple reasons, balance, being able to move it to a BR where it can actually do it’s job as an SPAA and historical accuracy being the main ones.
But you are going to do it anyway.
not really, I expressed my opinion and mimicked the OPs capitalization of words to emphasize a point.
I don’t believe I have been aggressive in this thread in the slightest, sorry if you read it that way. I’m not exactly an eloquent person at the best of times and it certainly would not be the first time I’ve come across as being angry or nasty in text communication when that was not my intent.
I agree there is a real easy answer to this and it’s don’t knife fight with gun system SPAA. Why do MBT’s have to be stronger? in reality they aren’t in urban knife fights, use range correctly and hit first… really really easy.
Neither the Leopard or Type 74 should ever be in a situation where a Falcon can get on their side. The entire point of those vehicles is that they are mobile snipers.
And stating Germany doesn’t have options is a flat-out lie. You have an M48 at 8.3 that’s extremely powerful.
The Side Armor is about 80mm thick. It’s not exactly “thick”. Even a 25mm Rotary like the LAV-AD can cut through it with AP-I rounds.
This doesn’t sound like a suggestion; it sounds more like aggression.
To make this even more hilarious, do you think SPAA haven’t engaged tanks before? The Tiger’s gun literally came from one because it was that good at it. Vehicles like the Skink were also never used against Aircraft.
Historically speaking, anti-air was extensively used against ground targets and still is when pressed to do so.
Stating a fact is not shaming you. I play with many average players and have assisted several newbies get to my level. I have no care for if you are good or bad at the game; I only care what your credentials are when it comes to stating how “OP” something is.
Sure looks like a lot of capitalization. /s
I’m not going to psychologically break down your message to prove this point, so deny it all you want. You and I both know why you replied frantically to an opinion post with irrelevant information. Vehicles in this game regularly get or don’t get things they either had or didn’t have in reality. It’s common, so using it as a point against the Falcon shows your bias.
Then you should reply in a way that’s constructive, not condescending. You’re using emotions to decide what’s OP or not, especially when available statistics show the Falcon at only a 1.3KD through 20 million games.
“Yes, MBTs are known to run around the city ambushing tanks while holding W”.
They already up tiered the Falcon from 7.7. so it’s pretty useless to Airpower. The APDS is the only thing going for it.
So take it away and now from 5.5 to 8.3 you have nothing…
If they trial it and it’s stupid I hope they find another SPAA, maybe some kind of Bofores 40mm.
Guess the FlakBus should be an SPAA, not a TD. Maybe the Skink should join the Terminator and have the wrong classification and instead be a TD too! That sounds fun.
I am not, but APDS isn’t APHE, now is it? This post is about APDS, not APHE or SAP.
Yeah, cuz I want to play a C&P USA tank with no line up on Germany rather than the German tanks
try 20-30mm between the driving wheels, it’s the same with every T-series, although the later ones have rubber fabric screens that help a little.
It’s not a suggestion it’s my opinion. same as the OP who posted the title: “Falcon SHOULDN"T remove apds” is he being aggressive too?
Completely missing my point, I’m saying it can go to a BR in the game where it is more effective against aircraft, again in the game not IRL.
you don’t have to try to balance a Tiger between is SPAA and AT abilities though do you?
So if I have a bad KD I can’t tell what kills me more vs less or what I do more bad vs less bad in? dose the fact I die in ARB make my opinion less valid than the guy that runs away and AF camps to pad his score?
Again, read the title of the thread
I also gave my opinion, and the fact that the Falcon still has a round capable of killing almost any tank it will face is far from irrelevant. you “theory” about my state of mind while entertaining is irrelevant.
Again your interpretation, I have already apologized for the misunderstanding.
which doesn’t change that it never used or has any proof it was planed to use APDS.
Be my guest and find me AAs that are purpose built to fight in CQC or that at least have some upgrade packages for urban combat. I can find you loads of MBTs though.
APHE (which Falcon has) interaction with cupolas is pure BS.
Adding APDS to the mix in the same belt just makes things worse when it comes to things being broken.
Not a liar, just a bit… challenged as it seems you can’t read and understand things properly.
I was talking about M247 being overpowered against air, not ground lol.
Good thing that you keep track of things, but do it right next time.
My posts obviously triggered some people that reported them, causing a removal.
I don’t delete anything myself.
