if you get killed by a pantsir while being a mbt, mega huge skill issue and blind brainless usa main
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What? The T-72 only has 27mm of armor (at 90-degrees)? Or did you not even look up the pen of the SAP-I round?
AP-T 86 83 69 55 44 35
It’s certainly better than the SAP-I of the Falcon.
SAP-I 53 50 42 34 27 21
ZSU37-2 = 60 km/h / 23 km/h
Falcon = 48 km/h / 7 km/h
That’s mighty generous of you.
26mm (20mm plate but angled)
30g explosive filler vs 0g
after the cancer that thing has been causing it can stay where it is until it’s proven that the SAP-I isn’t cutting it
So it has an incredibly goofy weakspot that can be exploited in the game under specific conditions. You gonna use that logic to determine the BR of EVERY combat vehicle in the game? I mean, the M3 Lee at BR 2.7 can pen that at 1500m as well. Let’s raise the BR of the M3 Lee…
But can actually damage more enemies. The 30g is not doing much if it can’t pen. And multiple quick hits of AP can do a lot of damage if the shooter has any clue of what they are doing.
Oh stop whining. It’s losing the APDS. If you STILL have problems after this you might want to change your tactics.
like shooting it in the side from under 1.5km is a “specific condition”
Which we just established it can from the side at anything under 1.5km
if you have problems without the APDS YOU might want to change YOUR tactics.
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No wonder OP is mad.
Dude has over a 3k/d in the falcon vs ground targets.
Over 1.5k ground kills and only 149 air kills.
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imo gaijin should add a “team reward” system of some kind
giving players some SL and RP every minute or so just for being in an SPAA at all, and then nerfing SPAA AT capacity. This could actually encourage players to sit and wait in an SPAA, instead of only revenge killing CAS
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It’s a dumb change. Didn’t even change its BR. Glad I moved onto Flakpanzer 341. There’s no way Falcon will stay 8.3 without APDS. Will drop down like the VEAK did after it lost its HE-VT round.
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Falcon was ready to move up to 8.7 with how broken it was at 8.3.
Leaving it at 8.3 for the time being to see how it’ll perform or dropping it down to 8.0 is a sensible option here.
Some don’t want to see their bully machines nerfed.
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The DCA was a fun autogun for the french 8.7, with, imo, a good balance, now I guess it’s just gonna become a subpar overtiered anti air… Because its radar is close to useless, the rate of fire too low compared to some other better SPAAs, and the two guns being close from each other makes it harder to spray.
Meanwhile, Terminators are still ruining the game at 10.3 and above.
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Sadly, DCA is still a better choice than Santal most the time @ 9.3, lol. God those missiles suck.
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The SANTAL may suck, but the truth is that the Roland is the worse of the entire tree lol, at least SANTAL is somewhat usable
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I’m impressed how that one haven’t moved up already.
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Judging by the ratings in statshark, I’m assuming most people that have the 341 have not used it since the APHE change. And that thing used to suffer, especially in the hands of German mains. I’m doing my part to bring its statistics up, though. For example, last night:
What do you mean ?
Coelian exploded in games played and general stats after the change.
Yes, people like myself have been spamming it since the change. I meant the rating in statshark. Last night I got 3820 rating for:
So i was assuming that the overall statistics of the vehicle are still being weighted down by the historic performances before the APHE change. Unlike something like the BMPT where you’d get a 5-6 KDR and have a 1200 rating.
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Ah okay, but I doubt Gaijin is using ratings to determine what’s overperforming.
They’re interested in efficiency or in other words, RP/SL gains.
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The falcon is now the same BR as the ones with radar, APDS, and that are faster.
The falcon purely as an AA at 8.3 is laughable.
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So is statshark, sometimes sadly, hence why you get such a low rating using Ju 288C in GRB compared to all the bots base bombing in ARB. Anyway, I hope if they do make any change it’s to the BR. 7.3-7.7 is fine. I carry enough Maus in the 341 every night, might as well make me 7.7.