Another prime example of being forgotten by the statistical balancing, the JA37D

You just replied to it.
Zyranovos added context to my post, strengthening it.
Glad to see more people agreeing with us.

He literally said that the statistics from the documents used to nerf the JA37 are the ones from the AJ37.

They used the wrong plane to nerf another but similar plane.

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Yes, which I agree with.
I am not sure why your initial post was so hostile when you could’ve asked for that information from me yourself or wait until his post to begin with to find out my personal position.

All my initial post said was that the documents used are public, nothing more.
I spoke not about the accuracy of the flight model in-game in the initial post, just a general idea about wing [or lifting as a better term] area’s relationship with available energy output.

And my only disagreement for your original post was the relative BR to Mig-23ML, as air RB at that stage cares more about the strength of aircraft radars and the strength of IR missiles than it does about dogfighting.

That is all, a minor disagreement about relative BRs with an initial attempt to calm your nerves at the start.
I am on your side overall.

He just ruins any thread he replies too and lil bit unhinged he speaks anything and and his statement are mostly sounds like rage baits

Please make an issue if possible about this. It would genuinely be very appreciated.

If that’s what you were trying to say why not outright say it, that’s why people get mad at you.

I would but I don’t know how to pull in game data to prove it wrong.

I think u cannot use data mine info to report I can be wrong

I think recordings and images showing the performance under specific conditions compared to the official documents combined with good reasoning would be enough. This accepted issue may help: Community Bug Reporting System

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Cause I was getting stressed at the 405 errors [which is a backend issue with the forum “architecture” itself and not specific to the War Thunder forum], and forgot my initial thoughts.
Your post reminded me of them.

@ares94r I am saying War Thunder is imperfect… specifically about Viggen.

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Right, because the error 405 means "it’s opposite day now and we’ll run your message through GPT with the prompt “plase write a paragraph with the opposite meaning of the inital text” ".

Maybe, just maybe, don’t write out generalized half-thruths so that you can change your “facts” into whatever the flavor of the day is.

Or do I have to remind you of the time where you vehemently argued that the Mig29 has a better flight model than the Mirage 2000?

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@Grossaaaa
The time I argued that Mirage 2000 has superior flight performance to Mig-29 for dogfights.*
Corrected it for you.

I never said nor typed the Mig-29 was better in dogfights and never will.
I said in the context of air RB that Mig-29’s flight performance was good enough to be equivalent at the speeds air RB utilizes [>/=800kph].

I’ve never used an AI service and never will either.

There’s a developer stat window that people use to pull data directly from the live game…

That’s how they helped nerf the MiG-23, the Viggen was shown flight manuals only (for the AJ/AJS with the early ‘RM-8A’ engine, not the RM-8B that the JA37’s used…)

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I’ve tried and they denied it before.

I never said that @Zyranovos was wrong neither I said you were wrong only thing that was wrong was how u stats things half of the time u miss the main point of the topic and your reply will sound like a ragebait that’s why people get angry on you i have seen countless times I do have respect for you because sometimes you are absolutely right and all the people are bashing you for no reason but whatever i was not stating you or him are wrong anyway it was about the topic and how gaijin keep adding stuff that is itself broken and old stuff get never fixed and i hate error 405

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Good luck hope u get something fixed because I love my viggen

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I appreciate the clarification and will amend my post with corrections. I apologize.

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No need to apologise I have mistaken you many times I am sorry for that maybe I have said something that were not need or are bad I am sorry regarding that hope we will meet again on a new thread . Love reading your replies have a great day/night

I understand it now appreciate the correction and letting me understand it thankyou

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The JA37, even with a full weapon load is stated in its flight manual to be able to, when at high altitude reach Mach 2.1 with the right amount of fuel of course, but that’s not the issue, it’s got way better maneuverability and energy retention.