This is only 1 variant of the Ho-Ri. There were 3 In total.
Same rules as the Maus or any vehicles of the sort->1 rp into it=safe from being hidden. Though honestly Gaijin should just be hiding V2 and V3 not V1.
It’s because the R2Y2 V1 has historical proof of being possible to build since very little between the propeller R2Y1 and R2Y2 V1 were different, and the engines were already being produced. Peoples counterargument is that it wasn’t mounted, however that’s only cause we do not have documentation of it ever been mounted nor pictures which wasn’t too surprising considering by this time it was far harder to document everything with the only documentation we know of was a napkin of the jet engines being planned or possibly mounted.
By “The Ho-Ri” I presume they are referring to the version that ended up reaching the prototype stage. The other two are acknowledgeable but due to never progressing past the drawing board/scale model phase they are irrelevant for the game’s purposes.
@Stona_WT I assume that if I have the aircraft fully researched, but not bought it will still remain available for me
That is correct, any amount of research into the vehicles will keep it in your inventory, similar to when Maus returns annually.
yes, even if it is not fully research, you need at least 1 rp point, and you can finish it anytime.
I can finally go back to flying german and italian planes for axis without feeling FOMO.
Nice work
I am still waiting for replacement aircrafts for these… How long will it take for them to give us 3 new aircraft with four 30mm cannons? AFAIK the only feasable candidates would be Ki-201 partly built and J7W2 which the J7W1 was tested wuld have used the same engine as Ki-201 that never arrived which means they never got to design the J7W2 despite it was planned as next step from the very beginning!
In his own words, Kiyohara wrote, “At the ‘Shinden’ Prototype plan requirements in 5th of June 1944. Air Technical Arsenal’s engine department instructed, ‘Proceed with the design taking into consideration the use of a gas turbine engine.’”
Can we please get these two to fill the R2Y2 shaped hole in our hearts? Rank V is a barren wasteland… :<
The next part piqued my interest.
‘In War Thunder, we want to include vehicles that were complete and built; either in full, in the prototype phase or in the experimental phase. Much like the removed German ground vehicles in 2019’
Please not lie when talk about removed German ground vehicles.
- If you take research about the removed german vehicles u will be realize only Coelian , Tiger II H (10,5 cm)made from wood mock up.(But tiger ii H already exist so his 10,5 cm gun equiped variant use a same hull. Like many OBJ tank or even OSTWIND II and his premium variant(which never exists.))
-Maus already in factory product and Soviet army captured his ready/self destroyed examples. It proofed with many variety of picture which made by the soviet army. - Panther II captured by the US forces and its hull currently exhibited in museum with a Panther G turret and gun. Variety of sources also mentioned the schmalturm turret production plan and his ready prototypes.
schmalturm turrent exibited in Bovington tank museum:
So based on Vehicle experience the true remove reason is:
-Coelian: That was the only armored/heavy armored SPAA and fighters can’t eliminated his. also clear the sky from CAS.
-Tiger II H 10,5cm: Tiger 2 with more power ful gun , not fit that concept.
-Maus: In 2019 they not able to balance it. When it fight in highter BR it was a cancer, when it fight his own BR and against lower BR it’s immortal.
-Panther II : This tank need to know how to handle it because it explode from one shot, but in RB it too OP if use an experienced hand…
…but easy to blame it ‘they removed because they never existed’…
the tiger 2 10.5cm doesn’t really fit well in the Tiger 2 turret that’s the main problem with it
G8N1 and G5N1 missing their x2 2000lb’s/x1 4000lb
Ki-200 being a frankenstein plane, J8M1 Stats but fusolage of the Ki-200
would be nice to get J8M1 and Ki-200 rather than a kitbashed frankenstein
There’s so much wrong here I don’t even know where to begin…
I’ll give you that the Coelian is debatable… but there is still an argument to be made that it was never built and that could justify its removal.
The Panther II in game was outright fake, like WoT level BS.
Tiger II hull existed yes but there was never a 10.5 cm gun mounted to the turret nor was a Tiger II hull ever purpose built for the 10.5 cm variant.
Maus was not removed for historical reasons and Gaijin never claimed it to be. They themselves said it was too hard to balance.
I think you need to reread the exact requirements for ground vehicles to be added to the game or you will stay misinformed.
hmm interesting but i arguing with you.
‘The Panther II in game was outright fake, like WoT level BS’.
Firsly Panther II HULL exist and as i mentined it in exibition in US military museum. ( General George Patton Museum of Leadership - Wikipedia)How ever not completed sources mention it will fit with schmalturm turrent which also completed. Based on main gun we not sure which was it equiped the 75mm kwk 42 or 88mm kwk 43 so if it as a fictional BS based on captured materials by US, how it become fake?
Why the Ho-RI Production and Prototype exist in game based on blueprints while the sources mentined only his gun tested and completed? If they able to still in game because one of his part ready why panther II removed while it’s half ready?
‘Tiger II hull existed yes but there was never a 10.5 cm gun mounted to the turret nor was a Tiger II hull ever purpose built for the 10.5 cm variant.’ If we talk about the tiger II H hull exist but not equipped with 10,5 cm gun Why exist the Ostwind II? That also a fictional BS. Oswind hull exist and turrend and gun configuartion not really or if you have any source about it please share with us i like read and research last century’s military technology.
Also intresting if Ostwing II also is a fake tank and later it added a premium version too.
So after this please explain me how fits the Ostwind II(and his premium version), HO-RI ’ the exact requirements for ground vehicles to be added to the game’? I really intresting about it. Also i intrested in how and where ‘the exact requirements for ground vehicles to be added to the game’ written down punctual (i read many version maybe i am wrong)?(link please).
But based on that experimence who written that need to rethink because it have a lot of gaps which questinable.
In Maus case in first case why it removed they it was a same reason. Later Changed the description and said: ‘can’t balance…’… after they got data. But now after lot of arty and tech tree organization Maus balanced but it never will return because t officially re entered the tech tree research part never be happen…
The Ho-Ri “Prototype” is mainly based on a small scale mockup due to old confusion of what the final Ho-Ri looked like. It is basically an example of Gaijin misinterpreting what it would’ve been, with information now showing the real Ho-Ri having a much different design.
The Ho-Ri “Production” is a pure fabrication intentionally made to fill the top tier at the time.
Ho-Ri itself isn’t fake, with multiple 50% complete hulls and completed cannon it’s absolutely a fair addition, bit what’s in game is inaccurate (and intentionally made up in the Production’s case).
Panther II from what I recall is similar, where a Panther II was real, but unrelated to both the Schmalturm, and Schmalturm 88 concepts.
There is none. Gaijin is using subjective judgement individually, and I personally really don’t like it.
But there is an amazing set of rules for suggestions that’s very clear, easy and fair. I really hope this can be applied universally to the game someday.
2x 2000 kg/ 1x 4000 kg you mean?
read red, weather wether
both fat bombs
Nah aaah !
Lbs bombs are the fat dumb bombs
While Kg bombs are the masculine superior metrics bombs.
(since 2000 lbs is like 900 kg = Kg > lbs )
and I am defiently not drunk.
that objection is amazing xDD