AMX A-1A still lacking (11.0)

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Call me a skill issue, but DEFAs are very often garbage even if they hit with their HEFIs. Idk, either fuse thingy, damage models or pure skill issue

Whilst I do have the AMX A-1A. My main frame reference is with the 30mm ADEN and my general experience is that a few really good hits tear targets to shreds, but landing those hits conistantly is really hard. There are some differences in round types used but I cant imagine those would have an overwhelming difference

But miniguns have a waaay higher DPS. The volume of fire it can put out in the target space is like 3-6x times of DEFA and it’s way more accurate in regards to spread.

I’ve never had an issue with 30mm ADENs or DEFA just blowing a target to pieces in a few rounds. Just a lot harder to land those hits

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I would generally say defa is better, mainly because I can hit things with the defa but can’t hit things with the M61. Also the M61 feels just worse when it eventually connects.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt tho, I also prefer the Russian 23mm to most cannons.

Yeah, I personally consider which ever is better 100% personal preference

This really needs to be looked at…The AMX A-1A also lacks radar which is important for the front on melee attacks with the R-60M of MiG-21 which has good radar ACM for locking targets so the missile seeker stay locked to target even if target flares.

I think MAA-1 has fast activation time? so that would be perfect tactic for it if it’s got a radar to seek things.

Until then it is just a worse Su-22

Another example it is overshadowed. Alpha jet vs AMX. 4x all aspects vs 2x all aspects. The airframe of alpha jet is vastly superior.

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To be 100% honest, I think that both AMX’s should be 10.3 at ARB and GRB. They carry only 2 missiles, don’t have a ton of ammo (granted the DEFAs hit like a loaded train, but it’s not easy to land those hits). At 10.3 their equivalent would be the A-10A (2 AIM-9Ls) and the SU-25K (2 R-60MKs), and still both these planes have a better A2G loadout and better survivability on A2A fights.
Gaijin really need to sort this out, on ARB it’s overclassed by every other atacker, on GRB it gets clapped out of he sky by ADATS and Rolands before the enemy tanks get in range of the Lizzard/Paveway GBUs (the only guided munition it has). As it’s stands today the AMX/AMX A-1A is only usable on ASB and not by much, since it’s subsonic, doesn’t have a radar and only has 120 countermeasures (60 in practice if you take equal amounts of flare and chaff), you only hope is that by some miracle you reach one base before a teamate on a Tornado/Su-24 or you get intercepted.

Good luck reaching those bases before the Tornado, F-4S and SU-24 tho
As a brazillian who is passionate abou military aviation, the way the AMX A-1A and the MAA-1 Piranha are implemented in the game make my PP flacid.

I don’t know what you mean by “fast actvation time”, but IRL the Piranha guides straight of the rail and has better flare resistance then the AIM-9L and can work with a HMD (it does on the modernized version of the AMX).

Maybe… All-aspects at 10.3 is a really messy thing to balance

Oh yeah, can doesn’t mean will. But it’s one of the core arguments I see people justifying the Buc S1/2 at their current BRs for example.

It’s completely stupid

I like it very much in ASB, and speed is not an issue there, as contrary to ARB where everybody starts the mission at the same time, base rushing really isn’t an issue, as players get “staggered” over time and bases respawn quickly and reliably.

In ASB I have no issues with it at 11.0, and could well make it work as base bomber when the A-1 was even higher.

But on the other hand having it at the same BR as the Italian one would only be fair, and I see zero reason why they should be different.

I still don’t understand why better thermals for premium AMX mean a step BR increase in GRB, while 1995 Tornado with 1st gen thermals sits at the same BR as Tornadoes with better thermals.
Btw people are talking about ASB, I’d actuallly add AAB, it can be very fun and profitable especially when you get into battle with not many players, although waiting times can be long.

I agree, however the AMX carries only 2 and they are so easily flared that I don’t believe that it would be so much of an issue.

I really like it too, don’t get me wrong, but in my (limited) experience with ASB i’ve found that the AMX is very “luck dependant”. If you get into a game that doesn’t have a lot of players you will do very well, but if the room is full, for exemple during events like the recent Mig-25, it can get a little ugly since it doesn’t do very well on dogfights.

One thing that I find annoying is that, because the AMX doesn’t have a radar, I need to carry the targeting pod to use as a sort of IFF, a lot of times i’ve shot down friendly Tonados (tornadoes?) and Phantoms simply because I couldn’t identify them as being on my team, but now i have to carry 200kg of dead weight (not much, I know) instead of 2 more napalms.

To be fair I don’t think that putting the premium AMX on 10.7 or the TT AMX on 11.0 would make a lot of difference, but them being on different BRs makes zero sense.

The issue is that a lot of 9.7s let alone a lot of 9.3s have no flares

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Wouldn’t say luck, as you can chose which match (and thus also which map, how many players roughly, how long it already played) to play.

I like Afghanistan most for the AMX, for example.

Alpha jet overperforms significantly

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