Yes, the AMX-50 that was supposed to go in production, which has the AMX-50 100 mm’s hull and Somua SM’s turret. The AMX-50 with Lorraine turret currently in-game is some vehicle assembled for a parade.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/ufrh8s/not_like_gaijin_cares_but_a_reminder_that_the/
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Interesting!
Would be a nice way to reintroduce french heavies to people who didn’t had chance with the Surblindé.
But since I’m egoist, I’m more of it being event.
we are missing 4 variants for AMX 50, we could get ELC Even 30 and 90, ELC Lorraine iirc also had oscillating launcher
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This looks great! +1 for more French vehicles
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The AMX 50 “Surblinde” (TO 120) should share the same 5s reload rate and capacity (17), as both the TO 120 and TOA 120 turrets shared the same autoloader. As can be seen by your documents.
The name itself should also be AMX-50 (TOA 120) to match the current in game naming scheme.
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then we gotta see AMX M4 be renamed to AMX M4 (TO90) as there was TO100 version too
I’d rename it to AMX 50 (TO 90) if I had a say.
M4 and 50 are not the same
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but in fact, AMX 50 TO90 did exist… until like 1987, when it was scrapped to fund Saumur museum… F
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Yes. They very much are… And it shouldn’t be a surprise…
The two are the same just as the Ferdinand and Elefant are the same, or the IS-122 and IS-2 are the same. The M4 name was used between 1945-1950, but it faded out of use in documents over simply referring to the tank as the 50 tonne medium tank (by AMX).
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they arent. Meanwhile mentioned ones are either different designations or just mg mount, AMX M4 and AMX 50 are different hulls.
You can distinguish the M4 and AMX-50 hulls from eachother by:
- Looking at the rear roof
- Looking at the part between UFP/LFP.
If the vehicle has two fans sticking out the top of it’s rear, coupled by a flat part in-between the UFP and LFP, then it’s an AMX M4. If the vehicle has fans that do not stick out, with the UFP/LFP now connected, then it’s an AMX-50.
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There were at least five different hulls produced under the “AMX 50” name*. The “AMX M4” is literally pictured in that document.
And it’s why documents regarding the “M4” are kept in folders named AMX 50 in the Chatellerault archives
What part do you not understand?
*Technically no hull was produced under the AMX 50 name, as it is a shortened from “Char Moyen 50 tonnes de AMX”
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nobody refers to it like that. Short is AMX 50
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Rare tank scrapped to fund a museum that displays tanks…lol. Couldn’t they have scrapped some AMX-30s or something?
Deflecting or what? I never claimed that everyone today refers to it as such. But to clarify that you will never find a document calling it “AMX 50”.
Also. Here is Saumur saying the M4 and AMX 50 are the same in a facebook post.
not that I can access facebook from where I live…
at least it’s the most realistic story. The remains were found at someone’s ownership called Jacques Passenaud. Apparently he was salvage yard owner. Before, there were rumours that AMX 50 was stoled by criminals, but I dont think it was that cinematographic
I think in the game splitting this tank into M4 and AMX 50 actually makes sense. They differ visually and in armor thickness, and this approach allows for a better differentiation between late and early models of this tank.
As for the proposed tank, in the game it should definitely be called AMX 50 (TOA120). However, I think it’s fine to just call it the AMX 50-120 in conversation just for simplicity.
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