Take example iriaf, and it’s avionics.
Now, try to justify D version lower compared to it. Not going to happen.
And next, if you really want to compare it to SU30, witch one got better radar, rwr,cm/chaff’s etc
Fox 3’s are depending on range you use, sure close range 77’s are still better, but 120’s combined with proper radar are quite good on bit longer.
And imagine that it even got better radar vs F15E. So no, it would not be 13.3
It would be instantly 13.7 or 14.0
Yeah, it got everything better vs iriaf, only where it shines is fakours, and those are easyest to dodge, since that iriaf got only tws headon tracking, just turn 95 away and miracles happen.
And only thing better on MSIP is fox 3 count, and top speed.
Iraf is at 13.7 because people complain about the F-90 being better or equivalent to AIM-120C-5 if what youre saying is true the f16A ADF/f16XL and su30mk2/mkk would not be 13.0-13.3
Yeah, cos people cant look what nation flag enemy has, and while seeing iranian flag on air games, they still fly like idiots straight and hi.
And then starts whining how fastest BVR missile could hit em, even that it lacks mobility compared to 120’s.
Same fox 3’s, msip got 120A’s, (if 14D would get fox 3’s)
FM , somewhat I’ve enjoyed flying F14 more vs MSIP.
CM, you know F14D got more of em ( bol pods)
MSIP radar VS 14D radar a joke if you try to say they are in par.
So yeah, clearly I got no clue… :D
Once more again F-15C misp 2 can carry 8 Aim-120A plus it has access to HMD with a good radar its way better FM compared to the F14D as the F14D barely compete with the f16A ADF
F-14D may have more but the f15C misp 2 has better results with the CM it carrys plus its FM. No I’m not say the radars are on par I’m saying the f15C radar is good enough to challenge the apg71 radar especially since it has HMD even if both aircraft had aim-120a
And no you don’t have a clue about what you’re talking about if you think The f14D FM is on par with the f15C as it’s not even on par with f15A
Can you justify IRIAF vs everything else in the same BR or lower (Su-30s) ?
The F90 “problem” is playerbase problem , vs 14D it has …practically nothing assuming you know how to evade F90s and you get close enough for Sparrows and 9M .
You can’t really compare anything with IRIAF F-14 because it’s an oddity created by the playerbase’s inability to counter the missiles… and that’s all it is.
That’s personal preference, it handles better on the lows and slows ok …15 is better higher up.
Ehm, last time i checked i think it had 240 CMs. Those are plenty i think. 14D has more (296?) but BOLs are weaker anyway… so let’s say it’s balanced.
I won’t say no. But i’d say you can carry 2 more AMRAAMs (assuming we are talking of an implementation of 6x120As on 14D) and HMD. So again… debatable.
Idc about it either way. It’s already been addressed why it doesn’t or never will have it. Just surprised something like this topic which was already addressed elsewhere is still up. Others like it would’ve been locked same day
You mean like when gajin said we won’t have a TT f14D and gajin end up doing it anyways after player demand And it should have it especially after the f102A w/aim4f/g or kh38mt or f16XL/yak141
MSIP 120 + 60 large
F14D 60 + 320 BOL ( normal load, or 60 + 640 losing 2x phoenix or in this case 120’s )
So no, I would not say they are on par. even bols are “weaker”
Forgot that, since most F15’s goes on suecide missions, fast and hi. So yeah, that was better on MSIP also.
I remember it getting nerfed in that department and i am not home to check… but…
Those are videos in the spoiler , i placed them there to not take much space.
AIM-7Ps yes, AIM-120s no, it did not and could not use them in service, the “just a software patch” argument falls short give that it “software” at the time wasn’t what it is to day, it would not have been abandoned due to cost if it just required going around plane to plane pugging in a laptop and hitting “update”, it’s like saying the F-15J should get its guided air to ground weapons, because it could use them if you just put all the removed systems back in.
These are not F-15Is, you don’t just pull the strip of electrical tap of the NUC button and all of a sudden you have a totally new weapons capability you totally, defiantly, did not have before!
Now if the test plane could actually guide the AIM-120s I would support it being added as a squadron vehicle or some such.
Oh? Point at a single F-14D with AMRAAM, tested or otherwise.
Arguments for a weapon being added to an airframe is usually locked behind a combination of reasons, not just that it’s assumed to be technically compatible (in this case, based off a modified F-14A very different in configuration as the F-14D, premium or otherwise). If it weren’t, we’d have aircraft with the latest versions of missiles because they used previous versions of them despite never actually carrying them (e.g., Eurofighters, but with AIM-120D)
The only one to fire AIM-120s was a modified F-14A, you can tell from the photos due to the exhaust nozzle shape and the wing vanes, both of which where only on the F-14As… not to mention you can search it’s BLU number.
Like the f102A aim4 F/G or kh38mt or how about the prototypes given the full capability of what didn’t have IRL you argument doesn’t work when their other planes in game already going against “realism”
F14D does have all the technical capabilities to use aim-120A its even shows up in the f14D manual sms only thing it’s missing is the soft ware update and it’s funny how yall like to move the goal post to be more specific in technical capabilities when it doesn’t involve prototypes or f102A w/aim4F/G an kh38mt etc
