Tried it out in the test drive, and it’s OK - the 37mm’s look like a great improvement, but they have a pretty big flaw - ALL their ammo is in the turret base, which is totally exposed above deck and has no armour -
One hit there and it’s all gone!!
Yeah, all my praising for its final addition & then we see this… Surely it wasn’t like that?
I know Navweaps isn’t an accepted source (better than using my old 1990’s Jane’s books or spouting wiki) yet there’s a diagram on there that shows the mount & ammunition feeding elevators, yet it doesn’t look like there’s a magazine where it’s shown in game as the diagram is just empty space under the mount & the elevator going further.
Logically imho the devs care little for ammunition placement for secondary armament as seen on a few ships already, but surely they could’ve put those shells somewhere else.
As in that placements are not accurate?
On other notethe Chikugo’s ammo racks are placed suspiciously high.
High possibility of accurate modelling as it was not originally installed on Amiens when she was designed, nor did installed as serious re-armament(it was for testing issue of 37mm/70, which was prototype)
Similar fits to Chickugo also as it’s more of anti submarine frigate, and cold war 3’'(especially twin) has high mount above all JMSDF ships
This thing murders me almost every time I play the SF-40 heavy
This boat should have 4.0 BR or have its bluewater damage model replaced. In arcade at least.
There is no way to fight it except using rockets and torpedo. You can easily disable the Mg turret permanently by destroying the ammo rack, and maybe even the main gun turret, but the secondary turrets 75mm is tiny and good luck disabling it. Just as you disabled it the main gun is repaired again.
Because it has a blue water damage model, it can do this many times.
It’s main ammo rack is also extremely deep into the hull and hard to destroy even with its own gun, and the Arras series probably has the biggest caliber gun for a coastal in game.
Yeah it’s a BR tiered too low.
Agreed. It is tiered insanely lowly for what it is. What is my PT-59, PT-565, or Tucumcari supposed to do to it? It can move quickly if it wants so torpedos aren’t reliable and the waves system have made it difficult to consistently permanently disable the secondary via ammo-racking it with bofors meanwhile it can disable or outright kill me in 1-3 hits. And because it’s new we’re facing 3+ per match in 3.0 games. Absolutely absurd that anyone thought an upgraded Arras should be at… the exact same BR as the Arras.
I don’t think it’s upgraded version of Arras, because it’s autocannon is very easily taken out of action.
Anyway, even the top dogs of 4.3 (pr 206 and others) struggle against it. The MG turret is very easy to disable with these fast gun boats, but that’s about the extent of effective actions you can take.
Been playing against lots of them lately, and also with it to do the BP challenge - they are certainly not any sort of super-ship.
As I noted in the OP - the 37’s are easily dealt with, leaving just the 1 main gun - which is similarly easy to kill with any sort of cannon. And if you can’t deal with a boat that has only 1 x 75mm gun shooting at you then you need to spend more time at lower BR to get more cheap experience!
It has 2 flotation sections - dunno’ how that makes them “unsinkable” - I’ve been killing them with everything from US and other PT boat 40mm Bofors, with the ship itself, with sloops and corvettes, armoured gun boats.
They really are easy prey!
Absolutely absurd anyone could think this is an upgrade on Arras.
The SF’s are easy prey for almost anything - they have a huge ammo rack on the roof that blows them up and is almost trivial to hit from distance with descending shells, or closer if you have a taller ship or your ammo can penetrate the flimsy walls - ie pretty much anything.
It’s still a ton of fun for me. I should’ve mentioned that it’s been hard using agile small boats because I need to either move in smoke or hug any islands/obstacles or I’m dead. I might try using the isle and flower class boats to see if they work against the Amiens.
Ps:Thanks for telling me about the weakspot, I’ll be sure to use it when fighting them.
Yes I used hte barges trying to get air kills from boats and they are quite fun - but when playing against them that ammo rack is also fun :)
If the person playing it knows how to keep a decent range, the autocannon shreds any of the wooden PT boats most nations have at an equivalent BR.
Versus the Arras which has two of the mediocre 75mm mains? Uh… I think it’s more crazy that you think it’s anything but a direct upgrade.
No need for the passive aggressiveness.
Axiomatic all autocannons do that regardless of the platform they are on, and as I pointed out several weeks ago, the single turret is itself totally vulnerable to being destroyed, and also to having its ammo destroyed - it is a weak weapon.
Both of them have a single 75mm cannon - well done for pointing out you don’t actually know what you are talking about.
My comments fit the tone of the messages I am replying too - look in a mirror.
It takes over 100 rounds with the American bofors to disable the ammo. My point was never that it’s an unkillable monstrosity. Just that it’s unfairly tiered in comparison to basically any other nation’s 3.0. The Arras itself is also undertiered.
You’re right. I was talking about the 138mm mains. I think that was obvious from when I said “mains”. My bad for mistaking the caliber.
My comment wasn’t directed at anyone in particular so if you perceived passive aggression from it, that’s entirely on you. Very typical redditor-adjacent archetype who cares more about winning e-arguments than providing feedback on the ship. You’re entitled to your opinions but not to be rude because of them. So I’m just going to mute you now ! :)
I’m talking about AB mode in particular. But the mod closed my post and now I have to post in machinery forums.
Ofc it’s not as good in RB where guns are manually aimed.
I’m only playing and talking about AB
Why does the 75 mm SAP has twice the explosive of the HE?
