He forgot that the Russian planes are massively handicap and the f16 can pull, what 30 degrees AoA? More than the AoA “god” (at least its supposed to be in game) the mig29? Crazy I know
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The same way the F-14A “Late”, F-4D, F-4E-52, “A-10A+” etc. are all in the game at this point, right?
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what are your talking about? you make no sense at all.
Russian airframes are gimped beyond belief, like the MIG-29 being draggy as hell or the Su-27 losing speed several times quicker than in real life and being unable to pull a 120 degree cobra it was documented to pull.
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Who the hell needs another Copy paste plane which nobody knows about tho? F14 late or another f4c? Like what? For the f15 it would make more sense as more players would be engaged by them.
Do these planes add anything of value compared to the existing versions in the game? Why make the grind longer just to get a slightly upgraded variant that will be overshadowed immediately by the next?
I assume you also want to add every block and variant of the F-16 for the same purpose, right?
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i just got the su-27 and mig 29 and they do feel kinda stiff flying but i dont know a whole lot about the physics and performance of them. All i know is when they came out i wanted to fly them. took me a bit but i got there.
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I havent found them stiff, just that they lose energy very fast and regain it a lot slower.
They bleed speed wayyyyy to quick.
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talk about the higher than one thrust to weight ration on the mig29 hu-
The expected pacing of power creep / meta progression across updates, they are all examples of alternate additions to the game that could have been made to slow the rate at which the US tree went from the F-100 > F-4 > F-14 > F-16 > F-15 and their later variants to allow other nations to keep up, without needing to provide copy paste airframes in every other tech tree to keep up.
Ace Combat or Project Wingman might be more your speed then, Configurations are selected to be balanced, and specific documents tend to be needed to support changes.
And it’s not like I’m out here asking for the AIM-9X or AIM-120D.
It’s more an issue of Technical debt of the implementation of the Instructor within the Dagor engine itself as to why FBW can’t be properly configured, we know they are planning on working on it eventually, at some point probably.
Specific to the F-16 the issue was that there is no ability to create a sufficiently complex feedback loop that simulates the control schema, its not as if the documents don’t exist either.
Each is an example of a sperate configuration that has yet to apear, I have no faith that Gaijin won’t just leave things as they are.
The existing aircraft are improperly configured or erroneously share features with specific other variants of various airframes.
Yes? They would better permit the capabilities to be balanced (at a higher / lower BR) while allowing accurate ordnance / utility feature configurations to be retained.
For example The F-4C doesn’t have flares, the F-4D did. So the F-4C can be lowered & other assorted ordnance changed while still having an option at the BR (also loses access to CCIP).
The F-4E did not use the AGM-62, the F-4D did, The TISEO & PAVE Tack Targeting pod could be added to a new F-4E-52 and moved to a higher BR (has options for AGM-65D and assorted LGBs & AIM-9L/-9M andAIM-7F is needed to avoid being moved down, in BR).
Not exactly, I’d remove the F-16A-10 and F-16C-52(+), and replace them with the Block 25 or 30, and 40. Remove AIM-7 capability, with assorted changes to most of the Early Teen series to properly reflect their initial service configurations a the rate of power creep would be much less significant. (e.g. F-15A looses AIM-9M and Countermeasure dispensers).
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In the end its just a game, and if its to the point you dont like the game play stop playing ( its what im doing ) until things change to make the game fun again. People put their national pride into a war game thats sole purpose is to make money for the publisher. They will ether make the game better to get its player base going again, or it will slowly fade to black.
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It’s not just a question of greed. It’s a question of equity. Why isn’t the F-15E in the U.S. getting F100-229 right now? Because there’s a lot of people in America? Because they can’t play games well? That can’t be a reason. If this is the reason, I think it’s just far-fetched discrimination. It’s not asking for much. F-15E just get F100-229. and Israel is getting another own air-to-surface guided armament, and the U.S. gets 229. And even if the U.S. gets paid 229, Israel’s countermeasures is 120 round more. I don’t want it to go that far. I just want to get 229.
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Curious then that that you can find images of both the F-15I and E flying without the AN/AAQ-13 but a Sniper / Litening. For the Lantirn it was a requirement for actual functionality as it is a two piece system, but today, there is nothing, beyond regulation that is stopping the I or E from flying with just the TGP.
The AN/AAQ-13 was part of the handoff system for the Lantirn in particular for AGM-65s and paveway IIIs, (the 14’s install handled the latter differently and did not need the 13) such requirement was depreciated on later pods as the main TGP no longer required the navigation pod for handoff.
Oh I 100% agree with you on this, I don’t even think the initial Lantirn kit that we have in game could dump points for the likes of GBU-39s and the presence of the JHMCS just throws a wrench further into everything since that is a very recent addition compared to the Lantirn.
The easiest fix is just slapping the Litening on and calling it a day, for both the I and E.
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according to your logic having Kh-38 on Su-25SM3 is good enough, so it doesn’t need to get Kh-38 on Su-34
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You don´t understand. Gaijin is introducing this F-15E as Early version and then CTRL V another 400k RP plane with upgraded engines half a year later with no additional costs to modeling a new plane.
Which is also the reason I won´t be putting a talisman on this Eagle.
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This 100%.
Aircraft dont have lineups outside of arcade (why would you be playing top tier arcade), there is no reason for small sidegrade aircraft to exist other than for gaijin to pad the already terrible grind, especially at top tier.
Currently its just gaijin creating a problem and selling a solution at a later date.
“Oh you dont like the F-15E with lower performance, then go and play the Israeli tree, or grind it anyway to prepare for the version of the aircraft without the issues we added, now you can just grind again and you no longer have to deal with these issues!”
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Israel gets an f15i with the upgraded engines, so US should have them as well
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ok, not sure why your telling me, i cant do anything about it.