The PGM 500 is a massive upgrade to something like a GBU-15 v2, some applies for the AS-30L, it’s miles more capable than 8x GBU-12s without IOG
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while having TV seeker - no. sidegrade - maybe, but not massive upgrade.
at same time you get wasy less of them
btw, maybe gaijin will add GBU-54, who knows
Even Su-25 is testament that flight performance (whether good or bad) means nothing if you’ve got standoff capability.
F-15I not having that is a huge weakness, and no amount of extra thrust is going to let it outrun a 95Ya6.
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F-15E gets its 229’s engines
The F-15I gets the SPICE
That’s it. Maybe you could add a extended range standoff weapon for the E but that’s optional
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Yep, this is exactly how I imagine it going down.
America will once again get the worst variant of their own plane while foreign operators will get better variants.
We will see if Gaijin corrects the F-15E situation. If they do, I may grind for it; but if they don’t, I won’t bother.
They need to add GBU-53 and spice 250 in this update tbh. With limit to IR+GNSS(IOG)
At least smth will be able to out-spam pantsir(still wont work because they adding ammo crates with this update)
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Wasn’t the GBU-53 the STORMBREAKER? Or smth like that? And that has the mmw radar seeker? Could just use the ir seeker tho
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It is, also named SDB II
AGM-142 Popeye, SPICE 2000 and SPICE 250
AGM-130A & AGM-130C for F-15E
GBU-15(V)2/B replace with GBU-15(V)31/B, GBU-15(V)32/B and EGBU-15. maybe
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The US one will, as things stand, be the better of the pair in A2G, so it’s definitely still worth grinding if you’re aiming to play it in ground modes.
sure but why gipe it when it did get a upgaraded engine im even find with them adding a flodderd version with better engines for both f15E and the F18C
Purely for ground, I think AV-8+ with 4x AGM-65Gs can’t be topped, since it can land on helipads and spawn in the air; unless F-15E can carry even more 65Gs and I don’t know it.
Rather, I was looking forward to F-15E as the ultimate multi role fighter; but with the bad engines, it won’t be so good in the air to air department.
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It is still largely going to be that. If F-15E was the only Strike Eagle getting added this patch, maybe outside of some fringe voices, I don’t think we’d be hearing vocal complaints on anywhere near the scale we are about the absence of 229’s.
It’s solely because the F15I is getting 229’s that this whole topic is a thing. The 220’s aren’t bad by any means. It’s still an F-15. It will still play like a space shuttle. It’ll still be the best multi-role in the US tree, and depending on how you rate Su-34, the best ingame.
I really believe what F-15I lacks in A2G compared to F-15E, is much more limiting than what F-15E lacks in A2A compared to F-15I.
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I think we will get a response tomorrow. The CMs likely aren’t responding because it’s the weekend. Monday is a safe bet for a response.
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Aaaaand, here we are! 1,000 comments and 1,000 votes. If this isn’t enough for Gaijin to change their minds, I have no idea what is.
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I, like many in here, am of the personal opinion that they should give E 229’s and I AGM’s.
It makes both happy, and gives parity in both A2A & A2G.
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well im sure they will add popeyes to the game one day but my only worry is that what if its not moddled what if its not even in game, then they will make the argument that since its not ready they will add it later and f15E dosnt gets its engines f15I gets it popeys later mayeb next update or 2 then they negelect the F15E for ever gimped, im 99% sure gaijin will pull shit like this
US get’s a jet basically every update. If we imagine a scenario where Israel has to wait multiple updates for popeye, it’s equally easy to imagine US getting a second F15E with 229’s in that timespan.
The only value ithe 15E in it’s current form brings to the US tech tree, and the only thing that keeps it from being a useless addition, is that it’s classified as an attacker/strike aircraft.
The F-16C is better for cas imo and the F-15C is far better for air to air. Frankly because I’m in a position to get both the 15I and 15E, I’ll just go for the 15I and throw the 15E in the bin.
Only reason I would still unlock the 15E with -220 engines is so that I can get the actually fun and worthy later 15E, but I don’t think it would ever see a spot in my lineup.
It felt like a boat to me on the dev server, but that could be because I’m not super experienced as a pilot. It’s reduced climb rate was somewhat noticable and after 2-3 turns it had shit away all it’s speed.
F-16C still takes that spot imo. 16C has better flight performance, better pod, 4x A2A missile + 6x mavs + 2x LGB/JDAM while the 15E only has a couple more LGB/JDAMs.
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If you don’t mind, can i ask why ? F-15E is just a straight upgrade in multirole payload no?
Edit - Ah nvm, Just seen your edit. Fair argument.
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