Afaik only US f-15 used it
Except that the US one really doesn’t need them compared to the Israeli one. The US one should just get -229 together with the 15I receiving something, at that point I would be fine if they just put mavs on the 15I.
I want both planes to be somewhat equally viable, which is why I advocate for the above, not to screw over the Israeli one to make some US main feel better.
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How would giving AGM 130 or ljdam screw over the Israeli one if the Israeli one got Popeye or spice bombs?
In it’s current state, the Israeli f15i is much better than the f15E and if they just gave the F-15E it’s 229 engines it would be about equal, giving it stuff like Popeyes would make it much better than the US one for ground pound
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They need to five soice and GBU-53(limited to IR+SAL+GPS only)
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At least for the US F-15E, the AGM-187A is probably a slightly closer counterpart to the Brimstone due to not having glide optimized lift surfaces (or use a Ram Air Turbine for electrical power generation and so effectively has an infinite time of Flight as long as it remains above some critical speed).
And likely using similar motors and warheads based off the Hellfire.
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6x mavs is a lot better than 120 extra countermeasures in ground RB.
Hell even in air RB 240 usually already lasts me most of the game in my 15C, so I doubt the 120 more will be that significantly better.
Also I never argued for popeye die to their range. Just give the 15E the better engines and the 15I the spice 250/500 and everything should be good.
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They could also finally give US F-15 BOL which would completely make it equal
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dont think that gaijin will give it stand-off capabilities. due of ARH seeker.
With further development of Flares it could become much more valuable if they introduce various advanced designs / variants , that for example;
- Could have no / limited report in the visual spectrum (pre-emptive deployment is harder to detect).
- Advanced formulations that defeat Two colour seekers and other types of IRCCM.
- Had an additional series of intermediate Sizes implemented to accommodate the 1x1", 1x2" and 2x2’’ formfactor(s) of US CM designs, and revised performance metrics.
Implementing some aspects of ECM systems like the ALQ-135 / -250, could also make detection and tracking harder.
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The -187A still uses a similar set up with a dual SALH / MMW (baseline JAGM ) seeker, so could be similarly implemented to the Brimstone, since the GBU-53 has a much greater potential range.
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welp, same as GBU-39, but maybe there will be issues just due of TGP limits
Engine difference.
Neither are as-good as F-15A in overall airframe performance, just F-15I is the fastest in a straight line.
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Everyone who is in favor of the F15E getting the 229 engines are also pretty much in favor of the F15I getting domestic AGM or Mavericks. I just hope the devs see this and listen. The C model will still be better in a dogfight so I don’t understand what the issue with upgraded engine, it will help with the extra weight for the ordinance it can carry.
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welp, must be better to verticals, but only if play by energy
depends. in BVR F-15E(229) will be way better than F-15C.
along with just running at low alt.
It’s also simply better.
why are we trying to solve a 2+2=4 question with
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↦ (λf.λx.(λx.f (f x)) ((λf.λx.f (f x)) f x))
↦ (λf.λx.(λx.f (f x)) ((λx.f (f x)) x))
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↦ (λf.λx.f (f (f (f x))))
≡ 4.
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Have you tried to remove the СTF before comparing F-15I with the F-15A?
It is strange to draw any conclusions with different aircraft configurations.
Minimum fuel fully clean the F-15I rates at 17.8 degrees per second.
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Assuming the payload and fuel load is the same
F-15I has a slight edge here
50kmh faster and pulling 1.5°/s more than F-15E