bait used to be believable :(
The MICA NG is not comparable in range though. It is restricted too much by its small size.
It does make up for it in the fact that it can trigger its second stage to burn much closer to the target, even after the meteor has run out of sustainer, allowing for better terminal effectiveness. It also has the benefit of working at all speeds, unlike the meteors ramjet.
Yeah I was careful bot to say that it has the same performance. But what is officially confirmed about the MICA NG shows that the technology on it, is either similar or better than what is on AIM-260 (only if AIM-260 doesn’t have AESA).
We know from British documents that the US is capable of outputting far more technologically advantageous missiles if it wishes to, but regularly limits itself to what is currently available on the market. This is to say that US missiles will be worse or on par with what other countries produce in the same timeframe. People regularly equate US capabilities with US in-service equipments.
It doesn’t make up for it though. This scheme is better than what’s available on current modern missiles but still worse than ramjet sustainer. You have two scenarios:
- Initiate the sustainer at the peak of the loft in order to maximize range
or - Initiate the sustainer closer to the target for better terminal maneuverability.
Whereas the ramjet allows for increased output in scenario 1, 2, and many other scenarios.
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I’m not seeing how this is relevant unless you want to put the Meteor on a vertical launch platform or use it in dogfights. If you’re using Meteor and AIM-260 at low speeds, something has went wrong.
Actually it was introduced with about 4000lbs less thrust than it should have had.
New AIM-120’s pr AIM-9X nuh uh. Although it would be cool to see the HARM and the SLAM and HARPOON and maybe even the 114L
They don’t seem to be saying that the sensors were weak overall, rather that the data fusion aspect of the sensors was weak.
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That is true, but in the section where they looked at the detection capabilities of these sensors, the Rafale with PESA was rated higher than the Eurofighter with Mechanical, although the detection section included other aspects other than just radar.
In case you need to re-reference it: 12332.pdf (disco-legacy-data.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com)
Pfft get the JATM US needs it!
R-23ER
lmao
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I don’t see why USA needs newer missiles if other nations get new missiles that are still worse than the spamraam.
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yeah thats like when germany got the 2a7 when everyone else (except sweden) got tanks that werent even as good as the 2a6 the same update. adding shit for everyone when some nations have a clear advantage just lets them keep their advantage. but again with the leopard example. gaijin probably will add the better american missiles when they add missiles for other countries that are as good as the aim120a
i have no idea where this conception than meteor can’t work at low speeds comes from.
there’s a chunk of solid propellant attached to the end of the missile, so chance are, even fired from the ground it would still be able to ignite its sustainer ramjet.
The lower limit for a ramjet is often given at M0.5, although with non optimal efficiency. The flow usually starts to be efficient around M1.5/2, as stated Page 3 of this document :
As for the “reaccelerating towards target” the meteor can do it too, as the flow in the ramjet can be modulated.
So it can get a high acceleration and loft high where’s not too much drag, then switch off or reduce the flow to cruise at high altitude and M 2, and once close to the target, it can ignite again to give all the available speed
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As Dedale_Stargate said Meteor has a conventional boost phase before the ramjet starts.
This is from an MBDA press release
After a couple of seconds in the boost phase, Meteor’s Variable Flow Ducted Rocket opened its air intakes and the missile successfully transitioned to its ramjet operation. It then accelerated to speeds in excess of Mach 3, successfully executing various challenging manoeuvres including using the novel bank while turn control algorithms specifically developed for this high performance missile. The missile followed a pre-programmed flight profile for several minutes, which also demonstrated the high end game control capability for missile launches even at the maximum kinematic range.
If you’re referring to the ramjet not working if the missile slows down too much in flight then the simple answer is that you probably wouldn’t want the missile getting that slow anyway, ramjet or not.
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The question is
Why not?
plus US is not the only nation that get benefits with newer AMRAAM
Tell you what, US can get better missiles when France gets missiles accurately implemented.
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You could just say never, fat chance that happens
If you just want the power gap to grow larger and larger, would you be happy with your AIM-120C5 being at BR 15 or 16 so you can play on a level playing field against you and your mirror match?
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The classic ‘oops all f15’ lobby
Will they all equip a full bomb load and then assert that they need F-22 to remain competitive?
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